This is an interesting discussion….I am interested in hearing what 3rd party plugins are you referring to, Robert. I am always looking for ways to automate Finale.
Larry Eden > On Jan 25, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Robert Patterson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I would be very interested to know more specifics about the things that are > "well beyond Fin/Sib". Graphically, I know about flexible slurs, and I > would be curious to know if lines (like 8va) also have multiple inflection > points. > > Beyond that, I would be curious to know what makes Dorico so much more > superior for part layout. > > Do you use any 3rd party plugins with Finale? In my experience, working > without key 3rd party plugins in Finale is the slag mines. But I've > developed a workflow using several key plugins that is very fast for many > of the things you mentioned. In fact, it is difficult to imagine them being > much faster. > > ymmv > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:38 PM Craig Parmerlee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I would also note Sibelius 2019 was announced this week. It seems to be >> roughly the same magnitude of the Finale 26 release. I am sure the >> improvements are welcome, but really, this is a minuscule amount of >> improvement for a paid release. Dorico is adding capability 10-to-100 >> times faster than either Finale or Sibelius. >> >> Dorico has a steep learning curve, and it is getting steeper all the >> time as layers of capability are added. It still lacks a few things >> that the other programs have. For example, there is not yet any >> automatic way to have a single line in the score (e.g. FHorn 1&3) break >> out to separate parts for Fhorn 1 and FHorn 3. And Dorico's automatic >> playback isn't as advanced as Finale Human Playback. But Dorico already >> does some things that are well beyond Finale and Sibelius. Moreover, >> the architecture is more elegant, particularly in the ability to lay out >> music intelligently in a minimum amount of time. On the playback side, >> many people are using Note Performer with Dorico and claiming very good >> results. I don't care that much. The playback is good enough for what >> I do. >> >> I still have Finale 25 installed in case it is required for a >> collaboration, but I am doing all my new projects in Dorico now. I find >> a typical project is taking about half as long with Dorico as I would >> have spent in Finale. Much of that comes at the back end where I had to >> spend hours in final editing of part layouts. With Dorico I typically >> spend about one minute per page for part layout -- sometimes no editing >> at all. But Dorico also provides big opportunities for time saving >> during the note entry and harmonization processes. >> >> >> On 1/22/2019 8:21 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: >>> Hello Finale and Sibelius Friends, >>> >>> I'm forwarding this message to both the Finale and Sibelius groups, in >>> case anybody is interested in exploring Dorico. Using the code >>> DORICO30 you can get 30% off of either Dorico 2 or Dorico Elements 2 >>> (a lighter version of Dorico) for this week only apparently. >>> >>> Both of those programs also have free demo versions you can download >>> and explore. >>> >>> I'm not trying to push it on anybody but I know some people might be >>> curious. Version 2 brought many major improvements over version 1. >>> >>> I freely admit that I am still not very fluent in Dorico, knowing that >>> it will take me a lot of work to master it, but I also know there are >>> people in both Finale and Sibelius groups who have taken to Dorico and >>> are doing major projects in it. >>> >>> There is a forum at steinberg.net for people who want to get a sense >>> of how users are faring with the product. >>> >>> Dorico still uses their elicenser software or their extra-cost USB >>> dongle, so for people who are vehemently opposed to such anti-piracy >>> methods, nothing has changed and you probably won't want to explore >>> Dorico beyond the demo versions (I don't know if those have any >>> anti-piracy methods since they're freely distributed by Steinberg.) >>> >>> However, given the lack of forward motion in Sibelius and the lack of >>> substantive improvements in Finale beyond the automatic stacking of >>> articulations, Dorico may well be the future of professional level >>> computer notation software. >>> >>> Just wanted to let you all know, >>> David H. Bailey >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > [email protected] _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: [email protected]
