Hi Greg,

Greg wrote:

Am I to understand that Apples x11 is interchangeable with xdarwins xfree86 (except for the lack of a full-screen mode)?

No not directly and not really. Both Xfree86 and Apple's X11 are X-Window Servers and as far as I know there are other X-Windows Servers out there as well but these two are the most popular ones, the latter one in the mac world, the first one in the gnu/linux/BSD etc world.


They both share a common base and basic functionality but in as many points as there is congruence there is differences betwenn them, mostly in the libraries.

Do a google search and you will surely find a lot of information about this.

Since xfree is Still not showing signs of life on my machine, and the only time it did was when I installed the xfree complete package, what would happen if I went ahead and installed it again, now, after installing the other packages?

It cannot show signs of life. What has to show since of live is the X11 that you start up using the Icon it created. System xfree is invisible it's kind of a fake for fink which pretends to be xfree installed by fink even though it isn't.


Fink guys correct me if I am wrong at this point.

(I also have the The XFree86 Project version on a mounted volume. Is it the same thing? Is one preferred over the the other?

There's a light at the end of the tunnel or I can see clearly now, which song do you prefer? If you have both Apple's X11 and Xfree86 on your Mac and fink system-xfree installed then it is pretty clear why nothing is working. Your configuartion is pretty screwed up and I recommand you to delete fink, Xfree86 and Apple's X11 and then to start up from the scratch.


Then you have the choice to eihter

-install xfree86 via fink and all is good

or

- install Xfree direct from the original Xfree86.org sources/binaries or Apple's X11 and after that install system-xfree86 via fink and all should be good as well as with the first soltion. This combination runs on my Mac for now about a month or two and I have no problems with it.

And even-though I been searching the Fink links for the last few days, I've searched it before and abandoned it because, like I said yesterday, I found the information there non-linere and rife with gaps were certain assumptions are made regarding the knowledge of the reader. Options seem to be mixed in with step-by-step procedure, making me hesitant to try anything.

Do you have any Linux, Unix experience? If not so then sure it is pretty hard to understand the manuals but at first this was it for me too and I only did step for step what was written in these man pages and I too asked a lot of questions but what I also did was going to the library searching for basic books about Unix and X, searched with google and read a lot in mailing list archives. There are a lot of informativ sources out there in the Net and in the real world and slowly you will understand what you are doing.


And with a little basic knowledge about Computers you should be able to understand what is written on the fink pages and then there was a link posted to another site and if you follow this link you're reaching a site that is less technical but describes the basics of fink.

Read the goddammed fucking manual!!!!1

OS X is diffrent from Classic OS. Make up your horizon for somehting new or forgett about it.

Eric



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