On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 11:47 PM, Greg wrote:
First, let me make it clear that the questions I'm asking here (and
sometimes elsewhere) I have not been able to find answers for via
Fink documentation (I've been looking diligently since yesterday).
What's the difference between a Source Install and a Binary Install?
Source needs to be compiled and installed, binary is compiled and only needs to be installed.
<http://homepage.mac.com/sao1/fink/#top10>
Quoting from there-
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You can choose between two installing models:
1-Pre-compiled binary packages
2-The source distribution
1- Pre-compiled binary packages
When you install a binary package what you get is a:
ready to run program
Saving you the time for compiling.
2- The source distribution
To install packages from source with Fink, you need the Apple Developer Tools installed. After you register for free, you can get them from the:
Apple Developer Connection
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And speaking of Installs (And mind you, I may be clueless) I have
unable to glean from the previous posts on this topic (or from the Fink
docs), just what is is I need to do to get xfree86 running on my Mac--
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/intro.php#def-xfree86
XFree86 is an open-source implementation of the X window system. From Apple's page-
<http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/>
"X11 for Mac OS offers a complete X Window System implementation for running X11-based applications on Mac OS X.Based on the de facto-standard for X11, the open source XFree86 project-
<http://www.xfree86.org/>"
So to get XFree86 running on you Mac, clean up and remove what you have installed, download X11 for Mac OS X beta 3 from the Apple site and the X11 for Mac OS X SDK. Install the package by double-clicking and following the directions. In your Applications folder will be an X11 icon. Double click and XFree86 is running. Looking at your crash log, you have removed and/or rearranged the downloads you have. Don't do this.
preferably in full-screen modeFrom <http://homepage.mac.com/sao1/fink/index.html#top2>
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MacOS X and X11 (XFree86) work together
In X11, the top window, called the root window, is the size of the screen and contains all other windows and also the desktop background. As a stand alone graphical environment it has full control over the screen.
In MacOS X it is Quartz (the graphics engine) who has full control of the screen.
There are 2 ways for making these environments work together:
1. Fullscreen (rooted mode)
The two environments take turns and each of them take full control of the screen. We see only one at a time, but it's very easy to switch between them.
2. Rootless mode
Mixing the two environments. Letting Quartz take care of the desktop background, eliminating the X11 top window or root window. That's why this mode is called 'rootless'. This way eliminates the need to switch between two screens.
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You can have a rootless mode and expand a window so it covers your screen in X11- is that what you mean by "full screen"?
--complete with KDE, GNOME, Sawfish, ect,
and to have xfree launch with the desktop of my choice.
KDE and gnome are desktop environments, please read-
<http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/>.
Desktop Environments can have utility apps and applications. Mac OS and Windows are destop environments. You can have one of the open source desktop environments running next to Mac OSX, but at this point in your experience, why?
Sawfish, quartz-wm, tvm, etc are window managers. Each has certain aspects of computer control that they emphasis. X11 is a huge system of separate components. A window managers manages the appearance and function of windows and the user interaction with them.
I know it's possible. I did it on my previous Mac.
You can install bundle-KDE from fink and start it from xterm. There are FAQs and guides for this. You have your screen "look" or appearance confused with what functions, programs, and capabilities you need. KDE, window managers, all these are almost infinitely configurable. They can appear..look...how ever you wish to customize them to look.
All of the links provided have been given to you several times before. Read them.
Craig
Invalid tracking area
2003-06-07 22:16:03.718 FinkCommander[13064] Exit status of process =
100
Jun 7 22:13:02 blueDog last message repeated 5 times
Jun 7 22:16:42 blueDog crashdump: Crash report written to:
/Users/greghyde/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log
2003-06-07 22:17:00.116 Installer[13091] Setting package as non
OSInstall
Jun 7 22:17:06 blueDog authexec: executing
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Resources/runner
2003-06-07 22:17:52.582 FinkCommander[13064] Exit status of process =
100
2003-06-07 22:17:57.464 FinkCommander[13064] LSOpenFromURLSpec()
returned -10814 for application (null) path
/sw/fink/10.2/stable/main/finkinfo/x11-system/system-xfree86-4.2-
11.info.
2003-06-07 22:18:03.983 FinkCommander[13064] Exit status of process = 1
Couldn't exec /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz: No such file or directory
Couldn't exec /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz: No such file or directory
AddContextualMenuCommand err = 45263156
Couldn't exec /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz: No such file or directory
Couldn't exec /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz: No such file or directory
Couldn't exec /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz: No such file or directory
