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Larry,
So you just fill in the holes left by the cleco clips with welds?

Tu


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry *.* <[email protected]>
To: First Generation Firebird-L <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 8:49 am
Subject: RE: [FGF] Rear lower quarter



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The copper served two purposes.? The first is to back up the weld as a heat 
sink.? If you put copper sheet behind the weld, it will help avoid burning 
through.? The weld won't stick to the copper.? The copper acts as a heat sink 
to 
draw some excess heat away.? This way you can get full penetration of the weld 
without burning through.? The weld is much flatter on the back side.? Full 
penetration is important because pinholes through the butt weld will let 
moisture in behind the paint and cause failure.? 

The second purpose is for something for the cleco clips to grab onto.? Clecos 
grab onto a hole in the panel.? With the panel split at the patch, there isn't 
any hole for the cleco to grab onto.? Since the cleco clips have no hole to 
latch onto, the holes drilled in the copper serve that purpose.? If you can 
reach the back of the panel, you can use small screws and washers instead of 
clecos.? There are other ways to do this.? Some people flange the patch and do 
an overlaped weld.? I think that poses the risk of stress telegraphing through 
the finish later on as a wrinkle or wave in the reflection.? 

Clecos:? http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/sheetholder.php


Larry


--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Ridell, Niklas (C.N.) <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Ridell, Niklas (C.N.) <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [FGF] Rear lower quarter
To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 8:39 AM

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 Hey Larry,

I'm curious about the copper sheet metal you're using.
What's the purpose?
How do you keep them in position?
...and how do you get them out when done?

Please educate me...

/Niklas





      
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