Necessary and sufficient distinctions:

Knowledge is that which determines subsequent action.

Information in that which identifies cause and adds to knowledge.

With respect,
Steven

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On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:32 AM, José María Díaz Nafría <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
> De: Rafael Capurro <[email protected]>
> Fecha: 6 de octubre de 2009 02:28
> Asunto: Re: [Fis] Definition of Knowledge? (FIS Digest, Vol 530,  
> Issue 1)
> Para: José María Díaz Nafría <[email protected]>
>
>
> dear jose maria and fis colleagues,
>
> greetings from japan
>
> I very much agree with pedro's suggestions about naturalizing the
> concept of knowledge i.e. of not reducing it to the propositional
> traditional (platonic and partly arisotelian) concept (as suggested
> also by floridi building a hierarchy where the top is propositional
> scientific knowledge). the concept of implicit knowldge or
> fore-knowledge in hermeneutic terms is a key issue that links in some
> way the 'typical' human propositional knowledge with knowledged in
> non-human agents. we should diversify our concepts and avoid
> hierarchical and dogmatic human-centered views also through a classic
> connection of data becoming information becoming knowledge, where
> 'becoming' is some kind of black box that explains nothing.
>
> kind regards
>
> rafael
>
>
>
>
> Zitat von José María Díaz Nafría <[email protected]>:
>
>> Dear FIS colleagues:
>>
>> I apologize for being so quiet, considering the interesting topics
>> arisen with the occasion of our proposal to the COST open call of  
>> past
>> March, which we thank once again. This proposal as revisited by FIS
>> came to coincide in time with a call for themes proposal by the
>> European Science Foundation (Eurocores Theme Proposal), which we also
>> presented with a short timing. We may not succeed in the first
>> attempt, but anyhow it aims at opening a new scientific topic in the
>> ESF. If the proposed theme were selected, new projects in the
>> delimited field (well fitted to FIS interests) from any European  
>> state
>> could be presented to joint the research network. I say that, to
>> justify our silence in the FIS arena, while we were actually working
>> on it, although in the background. Afterwards, it was too late to
>> answer, when already other issues were under discussion… To keep on
>> the argument thread of our COST essays: we were not among the few
>> selected proposals, but were given reasons to hope and reworked the
>> proposal and applied again one week ago. About the theme proposal for
>> Eurocores, we do not have any evaluation yet.
>>
>> Even if I am not answering straight forward Pedro’s words, I feel  
>> that
>> we should let FISers know our efforts in finding new cooperative
>> research scenarios within the realm of FIS interests. Now taking back
>> Pedro’s proposal of discussion about knowledge: on the one hand, I
>> cordially thank Pedro’s initiative of bringing to this outstanding
>> stage a part of our elucidation; on the other hand, before saying
>> something about the topic, I feel the need to set the context were  
>> the
>> strive for this definition take place, which also implies giving a
>> general idea about BITrum project (see
>> <http://www.unileon.es/congresos/bitrum/T_Bitrum_presentation.htm>),
>> where we pursue an interdisciplinary approach to the information
>> concept from a maximally open perspective, aiming at the mutual
>> understanding of all the concerned points of view. As you may see in
>> the given link, one of the main means to get such a mutual
>> understanding is a glossary of concepts, metaphors, theories and
>> problems concerning information. At the first stage, it should help  
>> in
>> the definition of working teams, while in following stages it may
>> become an arena of discussion about particular issues, a reference of
>> specific themes and crystallization of both research (within working
>> teams) and consensus.
>> Hence, the elucidation itself will be somehow reflected in this
>> glossary, which edition has already started and its first public
>> version -although very incomplete- will see the light at the end of
>> this year.
>>
>> Although BITrum members are committed to feed the glossary, any
>> interested author is wellcomed to contribute. The managing schema of
>> the glossary includes: 1) a coordination board for glossary edition;
>> 2) an editor per article, who takes over the integration of every
>> contribution to such voice in a non redundant and rather systematic
>> article; 3) any other may contribute, as author or coauthor, with
>> entries, which will be afterwards integrated by the editor in an
>> article.
>> As an example, Pedro is editor of the voices: “Action-perception
>> cycle”; “Cognit”; “Foundations of Information Science”;  
>> “Knowledge
>> recombination”. Other FISers, like Rafael Capurro, Wolfgang
>> Hofkirchner or Peter Fleissner also contribute as editors of other
>> voices.
>>
>> After having given a general picture of the glossary and the projects
>> where it is a main axis, I feel free to go to the settled discussion
>> about knowledge, in which I contributed with the following entry to
>> the voice (I do not bring the other two entries to this voice, since
>> they are still in Spanish):
>>
>> * * * KNOWLEDGE * * *
>> NOTE: “>[voice]” denotes that such voice is developed among  
>> glossary voices.
>>
>> From the most viewpoints regarding information and knowledge, the
>> relationships between these two concepts are close, especially as far
>> as the common use of both terms is concerned. As a rule, the position
>> of information is lower than that of knowledge, with information
>> somehow ‘nourishing’ knowledge. Nevertheless, this connection is
>> ignored in case of a radical syntactic vision, where the problem of
>> the relationship is avoided to address only its technical dimension
>> (as in the >Mathematical Theory of Communication), or also from a
>> radical pragmatic point of view, in which only what-is-being-done is
>> called into question. If that were the case, information is just
>> considered as a mere instrument of the action and, therefore, the
>> problem of whether information refers to objects is ignored (be it in
>> terms of whether we are dealing with a correct perception or if it is
>> known that p is the case).
>>
>> Although conceptions of knowledge are and have been very different,
>> such as for the opinions regarding its definition, possibility, basis
>> or its modes, we can say that two fundamental models have prevailed:
>> the iconic one, according to which knowledge is an accurate picture
>> (of mental nature) of the object of knowledge, and the propositional
>> model, whereby knowledge is a real proposition. The problems of the
>> iconic model, where perception and apprehension play a key role, lies
>> in the specification of the limits between object and subject, as  
>> well
>> as in the explanation of non-iconic knowledge (such as logical,
>> mathematical and relational “truths”). However, in the propositio 
>> nal
>> model, where the scientific statement plays an exemplary role, the
>> inevitable circle, which comprises the justification of knowledge,
>> becomes problematic (>Gödel´s incompleteness theorem). But, whate 
>> ver
>> the model of representation, there would be a difference between
>> knowledge and a true opinion, insofar as only that one knows how to
>> justify himself (although its justification is only partial or
>> problematic).
>>
>> According to what is said, it is clear that in all those ideas on
>> information in which semantic dimension is considered, its link with
>> knowledge must appear. Normally, a more analytic concept for
>> information is adopted and a more synthetic one for knowledge, as  
>> well
>> as a bigger proximity to the object on the part of the information  
>> and
>> to the subject on the part of knowledge.
>>
>> For >Dretske “knowledge is belief produced by information”, and  
>> belief
>> always relates to a background of knowledge. From a naturalistic
>> perspective, in which a casual dependence occurs among the internal
>> states of a living being and external conditions, information for
>> Dretske creates experience (sensory representations) and causes
>> beliefs (cognitive experiences), which underlie the sedimentation of
>> knowledge.
>>
>> According to Floridi’s semantic approach, knowledge is constituted 
>>  in
>> terms of justifiable semantic information, i.e. information
>> constitutes the elements for further inquiry. In its turn,  
>> information
>> is the result of a data modelling process, which unlike the Dretsk 
>> e’s
>> naturalistic assumption does not necessarily represent the intrinsic
>> nature of the studied system (or is not necessarily directly linked  
>> to
>> it by a causal chain), instead, it will depend on the development of
>> the data by knowledge. In turn, the data are conceived as resources
>> and restrictions that allow for the construction of information.
>> Therefore, one can say that Floridi proposes an architectural
>> relationship between knowledge, information and data, where the first
>> one is situated on the summit and the data on the base. At the same
>> time, and as a result of this interrelationship, he replaces the
>> requirement of truth of Dretske (who also endorses the situational
>> semantic theory) by a requirement of truthfulness, so that instead of
>> searching for a correspondence between the statement and the content
>> of the information, a correspondence is rather being sought between
>> what is reported and the informant.
>>
>> In the >Unified Theory of Information, knowledge is constituted by
>> means of interpreting the data (or assigning meaning), which, in  
>> turn,
>> is the basis for decision-making that makes up “practical  
>> wisdom”. In
>> this case, we are talking about different levels of information  
>> rather
>> than a dependency relationship, so that information is gradually
>> processed: first, at the syntactic or structural level, then at the
>> semantic or state level, and, finally, at the pragmatic or  
>> behavioural
>> level. The information processing is performed by means of
>> interrelationship between the adjacent strata and not in terms of a
>> casual progression (as in Dretske’s naturalism).
>>
>> * * *
>> Sorry if it was too long:  I just wanted, besides contributing to
>> Pedro’s opened discussion, to show how we are developing the gloss 
>> ary,
>> to which all of you are very kindly invited. I thank again Pedro for
>> giving us this opportunity.
>>
>> Best regards to all,
>>
>> José María Díaz Nafría
>> BITrum project Coordination board
>> Universidad Alfonso X el Sabio
>> Madrid (Spain)
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:16:12 +0200
>>> From: "Pedro C. Marijuan" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [Fis] Definition of Knowledge?
>>> To: fis <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Dear FISers,
>>>
>>> I was asked several months ago, in the context of the Leon  
>>> conference
>>> (BITrum & interdisciplinary elucidation of the information  
>>> concept, last
>>> June) to participate in the definition of some info-related  
>>> concepts.
>>> "Knowledge" was one of them (if I am not wrong). After some trials I
>>> have realized that the task is outside the bounds of my competence
>>> --except in a rather trivial, anthropomorphic sense, one gets  
>>> caught in
>>> regressions almost inevitably... Maybe one has to take care
>>> simultaneously of the whole lot of basic characteristics  
>>> pertaining to
>>> informational entities ("concepts" included...). Well, sorry to  
>>> the Leon
>>> colleagues that I have failed to fulfill the compromise, but I think
>>> there is interesting discussion to be advanced  behind it.
>>>
>>> best
>>>
>>> Pedro
>>>
>>> PS. We are starting the firs steps in the neurodynamic central  
>>> theory
>>> proyect (NCT). Interested parties might have openings yet, contact  
>>> Fivos
>>> Panetsos ([email protected]) and me ([email protected]).
>>
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