Having no contract does not make the none payer a good guy, he
apparently does not want to pay. And if he have problems I guess the
coder have too, so he should deal with his own stuff as we do here and
if he can't he should commnicate about it. But I don't think the problem
is here. The best thing is to call a lawyer that will get in contact
with him, you won't even have to get to court, the guy will pay straight
away. As far as he can't handle dirty hands I guess...but you will win.
L
Helmut Granda a écrit :
Im with Doctor H here,
We don't know the details or both parties information about the project, if
you are a freelancer/contractor this might harm you in the long run.
Granted, you might get the money you are owed but in the end of the day it
might be 1+ (many more) possible non clients. Remember that the bad press
travels a lot faster than good rep and good rep is always hard to come by.
If I read correctly you don't have a written contract which in the end is
also a bad practice and you have to take your losses.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:13 PM, dr.ache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you ever thought about what that makes for your image?
I would encourage you to stay polite and willing to accept their delay as
long
as it is possible for you. You can deny to work with this client in the
future anyways
but do not threaten somebody with court or anything before there is no
other way around.
Have always in mind that there can be a reason you could not even imagine
behind that
delay. You are dealing with people - just try to image this guy really has
problems and
dont want you to know about that, or anybody else. When you take him to the
court you
might get your money but a very very bad image in the head of that guy,too.
The other way round - if he finally pays you and he saw that you are
flexible he might
recommend you the next time. Have the good parts about people in mind, dont
make
assumtions.
My cents...
Pete Hotchkiss schrieb:
Eamons point about the computer misuse act is not strictly true - you
own the site unless a contract exists explicitly licensing full
ownership of everything up payment completion.
My advise however is to leave the site up and get Thomas Higgins on the
case. He's BRILLIANT and has a ni on 100% record for recovering debts.
He's completely ruthless and gets results
http://www.thomas-higgins.co.uk/
Trust me - use these guys and you'll have you money before the month is
out
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Piers
Cowburn
Sent: 08 December 2008 11:51
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] My rights - site not paid for.
I've been in this situation before and done the same as Paul, it ended
up going to a small claims court and the client didn't even turn up for
the hearing. I got paid and the costs were covered by the client.
Piers
On 8 Dec 2008, at 11:38, Paul Steven wrote:
Hi Stephen
I had a similar situation about a year ago and in this case I had no
contract but just emails from the client agreeing on the cost for the work.
Anyway I simply made a claim via
https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp and I won my case. It was
really simple and will cost you nothing as you get all your costs paid for
by the customer if you win.
I would be reluctant to take the site down as doing so will then mean the
customer has nothing to pay for. By leaving the site up and running, you
have fulfilled your obligations.
Anyway good luck!!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen
Matthews
Sent: 08 December 2008 11:03
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] My rights - site not paid for.
What are my rights ( in the UK ) for taking down a site which has not
been paid for?
The owner of the company is happy with his site, but is not coughing up.
I still have FTP access.
He says the site took too long, and makes lots of excuses for not paying
- which do not tally.
He changed the site drastically at least three times - I think it took
too long too, due to this.
He is updating the news section and other sections whenever he has new
material.
I would be interested in your thoughts.
This person won an award for being a top business man this year - is this
what you have to do to be a top business man - screw people?
I am not the kind of person to take this action really, but I may
consider it.
Thanks
S
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