What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' is overkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, then this is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and never look back. We will have wasted months of training and actual development time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.
We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a very small shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not care about the little guy at all anymore. -- Matthew On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeff Steiner wrote: > > >Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 > >(Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to > >wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The > >people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the > >capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their > >knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily > >available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated > >it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give > >developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and > >Flash, ........ > > > > > As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. > > The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In > fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: > > * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target > audience. See the penetration stats: > http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html > -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better > chance of being viewed > > * There are no "older is slower" arguments. The v7 player will play a > v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster > than the v5 player. > > * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code > publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - > there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, > you don't even use ActionScript, you write in JavaScript. There's > nothing to stop someone from writing a new "player" and with a few > tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that > new player. > > When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal > API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I > know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I > use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's all > I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool. > > Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps? Not > really. Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case > sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context > menu, etc,. The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and > that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an > "application" needs video in it. FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like > ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be > benefitical. FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5 > (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my > Lazslo markup. The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding > easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own > coding model. > > The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the > SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit. There's really no reason > to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished in SWF5. > The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player is another > benefit as well.. If something should ever happen, maybe legal issues > or whatever, Lazslo can output to, say, Java applets or whatever, since > the code is all abstracted from the VM and the compilation process > handles the dirty work of putting your code into a format the VM can > understand. > > -d > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
