The problem with this argument is that there are indeed very good products which make using AJAX extremely easy these days in a simple 4GL environment. You can do things like right click a control, enable AJAX and bind that right to data. I can do an AJAX development demo that will have you gawking.
You can also get into them at well under the $25K price for the TIBCO one that got referenced in here. The whole point everyone is glossing over is that we all keep talking about how Flex is vs AJAX. I think thats a HUGE mistake. I would talk about how similar Flex actually is. See, AJAX is just the idea of pulling discrete potions of data back and feeding that data into the UI. When you mix that with the ability to update the UI with dynamic updates without page refreshes you know show true value in the approach. But see.... Thats what Flex does. By default Flex data services are async and by default you can update discrete potions of the UI without page refresh. Now, with Flex thats just the smallest snippet of what makes it so valuable. A truly rich cinematic experience, animations, great controls, great tools, amazing UI's, none of the restructions of HTML. None of the nightmare of DHTML, etc. And the whole HTML/DHTML part is what people just gloss over. So many companies can point to huge failures with DHTML projects. DHTML is the dirty little secret the AJAX pundits dont want to talk about. So generally when I'm asked to compare and contrast, I tend to compare more then contrast. I say look, async data access is important, and Flex does an amazing job of it. Actually Flex does it the exact way an AJAX project would. However async data access is just the first 25 miles in a long journey. You need a solution that can go the whole trip, and make the experience amazing. Just my ramblings..... -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 --- In [email protected], Dave Carabetta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/3/05, Aldo Bucchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Daniel, Dave > > > > Dave, it might be in alpha, but it is still excelent leverage that can > > be used today. If a big client goes for an expensive Ajax framework > > for all 2006 then good bye to selling flex for a whole year. I don't > > want that to happen. > > > > I certainly understand that, but it's kind of tough to do a price > comparison, in my opinion. Flex is, to an extent, a shrink-wrapped > product with a known price tag. AJAX products aren't the result of > using a product that has a price tag -- the true cost is in the > development/debugging hours. Sure, there are AJAX libraries that > certainly help out, but it's not really the same. Scott Barnes has > some excellent blog entries (www.mossyblog.com, specifically > http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/454.cfm) with some AJAX/DHTML vs. > Flex development anecdotes, which I personally feel are more > indicative of the true "cost" rather than looking at price tags. > > Regards, > Dave. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
