A question... Why another designer? Why not add the Thermo features into FlexBuilder or Flash? To think that only designers will use this tool is short-sighted. Developers will definitely also like to see these features as once the development begins, the lines between the designers and developers becomes blurred. And, on many projects, the designers and developers are the same people and now we will need to swap between IDE's. I don't know about Thermo, but Eclipse is not very friendly with resources and it is simply more convenient to have it in a single IDE.
Dale --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "hank williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Matt, > > It is as I would have guessed. As long as you guys have it as a design goal > you can for sure work it out. But I am sure you will find a fair number of > gotchas. > > Hank > > On 10/4/07, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The idea is that Thermo would not corrupt any code from the file that > > it is working on because we want designers and developers to be able to work > > on the same files. But obviously as you get deeper into development it may > > be that a designer has to be a little more careful as they make > > modifications since there will now be dynamic code dependent on the UI. But > > we're very early here so as we build the product out we'll want to test > > these kinds of scenarios very carefully. > > > > > > > > *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > > Behalf Of *hank williams > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:13 PM > > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Thermo & Cairngorm > > > > > > > > Yeah, thats why my initial post said "Do any adobe folks know whether..." > > :) > > > > Hank > > > > On 10/4/07, *Merrill, Jason* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't think anyone knows the answer to that yet (at least from the Max > > demo) - except Adobe people and a few Adobe insiders. > > > > Jason Merrill > > Bank of America > > GT&O Learning & Leadership Development > > eTools & Multimedia Team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > > Behalf Of *hank williams > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2007 4:58 PM > > > > > > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Thermo & Cairngorm > > > > > > > > Hmmm... > > > > Thanks Jason, but I am not sure you quite got the gist of my question. > > Perhaps I was unclear. I was under no illusion that one would be creating > > business logic in Thermo. My question is whether the workflow between > > caringorm delegates, commands, etc and the Thermo UI code will be easily > > maintained separately. Will we be able to embed cairngorm commands and model > > access in the UI stuff that is generated by Thermo. Will the round-tripping > > work. Does the conceived work flow target the cairngorm developer along side > > the designer in a smooth way. > > > > Hank > > > > On 10/4/07, *Merrill, Jason* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I was there for the Thermo demo (which was awesome), and they basically > > said Thermo is for designing Flex apps and jump-starting the basic > > interactivity between components - it's not going to be targeted at doing > > the full-blown architecture/business logic/coding of am MXML app. You can > > have a designer work with Thermo, while the developer works with Flex. > > > > > > > > Jason Merrill > > Bank of America > > GT&O Learning & Leadership Development > > eTools & Multimedia Team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > > Behalf Of *Paul Andrews > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:46 AM > > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Thermo & Cairngorm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "hank williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <hank777%40gmail.com>> > > To: < flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>> > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:39 PM > > Subject: [flexcoders] Thermo & Cairngorm > > > > > Do any adobe folks know whether thermo will easily support the > > > cairngorm architecture? Ideally I would like to either replace (or > > > ideally enhance) my view classes with thermo and keep all by business > > > and communications logic exactly the same as it is now. Will this > > > "transition to Thermo" workflow be supported? > > > > > > Hank > > > > From the videos, I would surmise that Thermo is a very nice screen design > > tool, but doesn't automatically include anything else besides basic > > interactions. You just need to add the other architectural layers (as per > > cairngorm) yourself. It really doesn't seem to affect business and > > communications logic at all. > > > > I'm not sure what transition is required. It replaces aspects of the > > current > > flexbuilder design view and includes extra functionality and intelligent > > importation of graphical elements. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
