> On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:36:47 -0800 (PST), 
> Alex Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > > > > > > > ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC AGP (rev 122), 8 MB vram.
> > > > > > > PCI id is 1002:4757 or 1002:475a according to
> > > > > > > http://pciids.sourceforge.net/iii/?s=1&i=1002
> > > > > ..so, on the Mesa gear demo, I should get like 1500fps on my 
> > > > > 200MHz box and over 2000 fps once I have accelleration on my 
> > > > > 450MHz box?
> > > > For comparison, my RagePro achieves about 80 on the gears testing,
> > > ..which RagePro?  A mach64 card?
> > 
> > Yes.  It usually manages 7-15 fps, depending on texture swapping.
> > 
> > > > not much slower than software rendering on the P3-600 processor
> > > > itself, while the G200 achieves about 350 in hardware rendering.
> > > ..and the G200 in flightgear achieves?
> > 
> > About 10 fps at 1000x700; it uses 16 bit color and depth (an old
> > card).
> 
> ..I can live with that.  What size vram?  2 MB

Without tweaking the source code, you have to have 16 MB and AGP working.

> > > > > Which one (agp) fits my 450 box the best?
> > > ..come to think of it, I _could_ leave it in and put in 
> > > another, but pci card.  (My only agp-slot box)  Comments?
> > 
> > Don't do that.  Most modern chipsets use the full AGP feature set.
> > The PCI card is intrinsically much slower and in compatibility mode.
> 
> ..ok, I might try it when I retire the box in a few years. ;-)
>  
> > > > If you don't mind closed source drivers, spend money on NVidia.
> > > ..I'm the proponent of airworthy source code, remember?  ;-)
> > 
> > I'm only familiar with the performance of old cards.  The Matrox G400
> > is 'ok'.
> 
> ...as in V fps at X x Y x Z bpp?

I'd have to check.  Ask again in 3 weeks, when I'm near the machine.

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