On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:36:20 -0600, Jon wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Whether it violates the GPL is a matter for discussion. IMHO, it's > skirting pretty close to the line. I didn't see any notice of the GPL > or some of the finer points of it, in the offering. I believe that > should be plainly visible. More concerning to me is that the offering > is misleading, and from my reading may violate some of eBay's > policies. I find this kind of thing distasteful, but more importantly > it seems to be preying on unsuspecting buyers. ..in courts, this is known as fraud, and copyright infringement: http://gpl-violations.org/ and http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/linux/gpl-violations/ ..I recommend we get advice from Harald, he has practical experience that I have only read about on Groklaw, and I'm too damned tired now, but I would litigate in Utah or some other copyright loving US state if this perp is or get's near the US. > I would recommend that eBay be notified and let them decide if it > violates their own policies. Their ruling may preclude the need for an > immediate response from the FlightGear developer community. ..this case is well past "GPL Violation", and fraud. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Realistic-Professional-Aviation-Flight-Simulator_W0QQitemZ260053619883QQihZ016QQcategoryZ80336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem states "New & Unregistered 100% Legal, Not OEM, Not Trial" instead of "GPL". Further, http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQsassZredlineditQQhtZ-1 lists 16 other digital items, http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/buy/contextual/digital-item.html ..he is no newbie. Logo looks familiar: ;o) http://contact.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ReturnUserIdHistory&requested=redlinedit eBay Member User ID History The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay. User ID: Effective Date End Date redlinedit 27-Mar-05 Present knightrule 14-Aug-98 27-Mar-05 http://www.redlinedit.com/ Compare http://www.redlinedit.com/services.html and http://www.redlinedit.com/faq.html ;o) http://www.redlinedit.com/links.html http://www.maryland-business-directory.com/company-home-maryland/redlined-it-112801.html [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp $ dig www.redlinedit.com ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2-P1 <<>> www.redlinedit.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63366 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.redlinedit.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.redlinedit.com. 16 IN A 69.251.111.183 ;; Query time: 6 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Nov 17 07:26:22 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 52 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp $ dig redlinedit.com ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2-P1 <<>> redlinedit.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 200 ;; flags: qr aa ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;redlinedit.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: redlinedit.com. 60 IN A 69.251.111.183 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: redlinedit.com. 86400 IN NS ns3.no-ip.com. redlinedit.com. 86400 IN NS ns4.no-ip.com. redlinedit.com. 86400 IN NS ns5.no-ip.com. redlinedit.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.no-ip.com. redlinedit.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.no-ip.com. ;; Query time: 145 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Nov 17 07:26:28 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 144 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp $ dig -x 69.251.111.183 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2-P1 <<>> -x 69.251.111.183 ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 65208 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;183.111.251.69.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; ANSWER SECTION: 183.111.251.69.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN PTR c-69-251-111-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net. ;; Query time: 131 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Nov 17 07:26:43 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 95 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
