On Thursday 25 April 2013 14:45:05 henri orange wrote: > So, your long answer to explain you don't like Rembrandt and you prefer to > work on your own system, as just been underlined there by you. > Your conclusion is "REMOVE REMBRANDT and keep up my own development" > This clarify to everybody your approach. > You want a flightgear without Rembrandt.
Thorsten did not even remotly say anything like that. Your accusation is completely uncalled for. If this is what you read in his last email, please try to find someone who reads Thorsten's English the way he meant it and have him explain to you. It would be a shame if a solution would fail due to a language barrier. > You claim Rembrandt wants high level Hardware my 9600 GT 512 mb can process > it. With An average of 20 fps ( disabling rembrandt and without ALS i never > get more than 30 fps). On a Radeon HD 5670 I get 3 (in words: three) FPS with Rembrandt using the free radeon drivers with lots of graphics problems and very ugly shadows. On the other hand I get solid 15-20 FPS using ALS and pretty maxed out quality. > Your ALS systems wants (when it is not crashing my system) a higher level > capacity Hardware ( mostly GPU ) to work correctly, with every features. Maybe. On some systems it ALS might be a problem, on others it's Rembrandt. > You told us you had the most perfect equipment , you can't evaluate what is > good or wrong with low level equipments. And you have only your own system for comparison. Just like I only got mine. And yours and mine certainly don't match. So while maybe Thorsten cannot give general adivse on FG's performance on low level equipment, neither can you and neither can I. > I don't mean i don't like ALS, i mean i don't like your approach , instead > of working on consistency with the existing valuable features which were > implemented within FlighGear, ( and by including Rembrandt), you ARE > WORKING on a other FlightGear. > > You are working on a flightgear VARIANT, your work is not OPTIONS to > flightgear. I can start FG, go to the rendering _options_ and turn ALS on and off, at runtime, as often as I like. How is this not an option? > Others , better than me, tried before me to tell you, you (are) were on > the wrong way. And Thorsten time and again explained on solid technical grounds why he implemented it the way he did, why he had to and what the consequences of other approaches would have been. I have to date not seen anyone even acknowledge these reasons, much less provide real arguments against them. Why Thorsten has not given up on this yet is just beyond me. This is not a discussion, it's just handwaving and accusations. I'm just very glad, that he didn't give up. So instead, I can enjoy as much of the great flying experience as I can get during the long winter months. And just to be clear: I'd love to have all the goodies combined. Very nice shadows provided by the Rembrandt defered renderer combined with stunning ALS visuals and correctness and the performance of the default renderer with all effects turned off. But that's simply not possible, so instead I enjoy what _is_ possible. Regards, Stefan
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