Chris Wilkinson wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Tom Schinckel wrote:
>
>> Chris Wilkinson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Tom Schinckel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I recall that someone was making the Virgn/Pacific Blue fleet for
>>>> X-Plane. Any updates/new pics etc? The models looked great in the
>>>>
>>> That would be me, although they're for Flightgear, not X-plane. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> picture, and I'm really looking foward to flying them. Don't suppose
>>>>
>>> They're flyable in their current state, but the work I did in stretching
>>> the existing 737-300 into a 737-800 with winglets has left me with wings
>>> with an incorrect chord on the outer section, and broken animations also
>>> on those outer sections of the wing. What I really want to do is rebuild
>>> the entire wing, so it has better defined sections that will allow me to
>>> (eventually) animate the wing itself, just like the neat 787 model made
>>> by Josh Wilson.
>>>
>>> My modelling skills are somewhat limited, as is my time and motivation
>>> at the moment, so unless other fg modellers are willing to help me along
>>> it will be a while before I'm happy with the 738 model...
>>>
>>>
>>>> there is any chance of a Virgin Atlantic A340 ;)
>>>>
>>> Yes, there is a very slim chance of a Virgin A340. An A340-500 does live
>>> in Flightgear, but the model has no animations (cannot visibly retract
>>> gear etc). Aren't Virgins A340's all -300's and -600's?
>>>
>> Er yes...freudian slip on my part: I guess that X-Plane is what
>> Flightgear should be aiming to be rather than MSFS.
>>
>
> Flightgear should be focusing on making it easier for Joe Averages
> like me to create new scenery and aircraft. The tools are available
> but can be (for Linux users) incredibly difficult to install. Thats
> one thing preventing me from fixing some really bad runway/taxiway
> layouts in my local area. The river/sea boundaries are also a complete
> dogs bollocks, and a model of the Brisbane CBD I've built is a waste
> of time because the river that winds around the CBD is really badly
> defined in the default scenery. I didn't create nice models of CBD
> skyscrapers to have them dabble their feet half way across a river.
>
> http://users.tpg.com.au/blobster/innaccurate-river.jpg
>
> I have placed the buildings to within a few metres of the real thing.
> The green lines represent roughly where the river banks should be.
> At (1) should be a botanic gardens, and at (2) should be the Kangaroo
> Point cliffs, a 30-40m drop down to the river. The use of 90m terrain
> means the cliffs will never be a reality, but thats where the Joe
> Averages come in to play. I can get some more accurate terrain data
> for that area, but since I cannot get the terrain tools working its
> a moot point. The tools are too complex for Joe Averages to install.
>
>
>> Good to hear about the 737s...don't suppose one can do anything but wait.
>>
>> On the A340 issue, I do believe that VA's most common is the -600. I
>> think the main user of the -500 is Singapore, who use it in their
>> ultralong EWR-SIN route
>>
>
> It would be easy for me to stretch the A340-500 model, but I'm afraid
> it might just become another half-finished project, along with my
> Brisbane/YBBN airport scenery, Christchurch/NZCH airport scenery,
> 777-300 model, 737-800 model, Gold Coast Australia scenery, and my
> Brisbane CBD scenery.
>
> I want to finish these projects, but now I find I cannot because the
> tools are not able to compile/work on my openSUSE 10.2 system. I'm
> completely in the dark about programming/coding so suggestions that
> I learn to code will not be taken in good humour... :-)
>
> Thats my gripe for the month. Constructive discussion on this is
> welcome, but defensive subjective criticism of what I've posted
> will not be.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Chris Wilkinson, Brisbane, Australia.
>
>
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Agree 100%
X-Plane has an inbulit modeler: Planemaker. Me and a friend had a play
around with it and within a hour or so we'd made a couple simple planes.
Admittedly, they didn't fly very well, but the fact that they could be
in the simulator right then and their was a good thing. I believe xplane
has a Scenery maker or something along those lines as well.
It's hard to install scenery on X-Plane in linux, let alone make any. I
wouldn't have a clue where to start to make a plane. If someone can
point me to a tutorial on how to make a plane for FG, I'll be very happy.
Their are a few excellent planes in FG: notably the Sencall, the
Citation Bravo and the B1900D: the Sencall is one of my faves, by far
the best model I've used in X-Plane and up their with some of them from
the 'big boys'. But I have no idea how to do something like this.
I don't believe that creating aircraft/scenery is ever going to be
anything that Joe Average will do - simply because Joe Average won't use
FlightGear - he'll use MSFS
Why should't FG be for 'Joe Average'? Their may be reasons Joe Average
runs FG and not MSFS. I didn't have a PC with windows to handle MSFS,
so I got FG.
I was Joe Average. I like FG, I want to contribute. I'm not a coder, so
making a plane model or scenery springs to mind? Once again, a tutorial
on how to make planes would be good. Easy-to-use tools would be good.
I'm happy to spend a hour or so a week making a plane. But I would
prefer not to spend ages bumbling around.
I cite X-Plane: I doubt you could say it is for 'Joe Average', but it
has easy-ish to use planemaker etc. And there are masses of stuff for
X-Plane.
What I would like to see in FG:
- A GUI installed by default with the linux version
-Easy way of installing more scenery and planes. From within the above
mentioned GUI if possible.
-A guide to making planes and scenery for FG. Maybe even a blender
plug-in or something of the like for FG.
Thats fine for some. People like yourself, with the patience and grey
matter to get to grips with such tasks I might add are a rare breed.
Because the numbers of such people are thin on the ground consequently
the amount of new scenery and planes will be correspondingly small.
Me? I'm a go-getter person, and dead keen to contribute as much as I
can to the project, but patience and intelligence are not virtues I
consider myself to have in bulk... :-)
Maybe a bit harsh on yourself Chris: I hardly think you lack
intelligence. But I agree with you. Those of us with school/work simply
don't have time make planes/scenery the current way. Maybe during the
holidays I'll try to learn...but I feel pessimistic about if I can do it
all the same.
Kudos to those who contribute to FlightGear: I really, really, /really/
appreciate your work. Really. I just want it to be easier to help.
Imagine if it was easier to make models and scenery for FG. We'd have a
much more interesting sim. Please help us help you
PS: my observation are based on the current (not cvs) releases of FG.
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