Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS

[Cecil Touchon]

In the face of Eternity even stars are but fleeting sparks. There is nothing that is not ephemeral. So, in the grand scheme of how I see things I don't think duration is much of a qualifier in relation to art objects. I have to wonder if this is more a function of George Maciunas being a commercial artist and an eastern european. I understand from that angle the distain for collectable value and capitalization but I think this is a fashion of doing things that works against any artist who wishes to live out his days as one. This is a great idea for aristocrats and tenured professors who, after all, do not wish to lower the precieved value of their work to mere dollars and cents through having to be reduced to the unsavory business of selling it. Cecil David-Baptiste Chirot wrote: Cecil i don't pretend to know more than a little of Fluxus in the plastic arts--but the pieces i know of many struck me as being ephemeral--that is, they are in keeping with this: "the world as we see it is passing" (st paul)-- to me often the works were to be in tune with this, make the viewer aware of the ephemerality of things and seeing things in the passing of time-- i think this relates in many ways to the Eastern infuences in Fluxus-- the piece one is seeeing is making evident that this seeing is passing, is not fixed--and then piece itself is not fixed-- the first definition of "modernism" is from Baudelaire--he wrote that is the conjunction of the ephemeral and the eternal--the eternal with in the ephemeral-- to me the Fluxus pieces are examing this in a vareity of different ways-- these are just some thoughts from the little i have seen and know of the Fluxus pieces in plastic arts--suggestions--to perhaps consider (?)-- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com >To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS >Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:23:35 EDT > > >In a message dated 5/12/05 7:54:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > I would like to start a discussion on how to identify a visual art work > > as a specificly fluxus art work o > > > >d9j0[9wquyr[0ohf3of3e98uf2hohe87f1329ghffbi;queuncp9fhfh-end of discussion-by >Madawg Download your favorite songs at MSN Music - Over 1 million songs for just 99¢ each