So I had a read back through the thread, and drew a few conclusions. The history seems to be:
* The thread was opened ~10 weeks ago, and went quiet ~6 weeks ago * At that time, there were 5 upvotes (Dominic, Daniel, Ewoud, Michael, Duncan), 1 downvote (BK), and 1 unsure (Ohad, who said he had "mixed feelings). Others commented but did not express a preference. * We then jump forward to a few days ago, with all the discussion that's happened since. It's hard to deny that it looked OK to go ahead with, as of 3 days ago; 5-to-1 is something we wouldn't normally challenge, and 6 weeks is plenty of time to speak up about concerns. However, I do take issue with comparing it to the previous OS deprecations, which by-and-large have been Debian/Ubuntu deprecations. These (a) don't impact as large a part of the community, (b) have a shorter shelf-life than EL (implying users are more comfortable with upgrading), and (c) have a simpler packaging structure. They're also unlikely to be using any of the RPM-centric plugins we offer, which (of course) will be more affected by dropping EL6 (bear in mind that according to the 2016 survey, some 30% of our community use Katello - that's not insignificant). As such, while I agree no fallout occurred in the past, I think we do have to be more careful this time. More than anything, I think it's the sudden switch from "dead thread" to "it's done" that has raised tempers, rather than the decision itself. I think it would have been reasonable to follow up with a "this seems decided, I'll do it in a few days" type of email - similar to how the branching happens. We have a similar "final call" approach in the RFCs, in case anyone lost sight of the thread in the noise. In short then, we are where we are. I think these concerns *should* have been raised earlier, but now that they *have* been raised, I think they're valid, and we should finish the discussion. As it stands today, we have around 5-to-4 in favour of dropping EL6 in 1.13, but that's not any kind of consensus. Can we get a (re)statement of the pros/cons from each side, to inform the choices of those on the fence? As of 10th May it seemed that the support of EL6 was only causing minor issues - is that still true? Other than preparation time (which is valid) are there other concerns for dropping it? Cheers Greg (PS - More generally, we seem to have an issue with "closing" discussions/RFCs with a firm decision; many discussions die out in this way. Thoughts on how we can improve that are welcome, and I will post my own, but lets start a new thread for that) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "foreman-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
