Im agreed with Jesse ...  we must expose the devel and qa images. and
explain isos objectives (:2-qa its for test and why) and (:2-devel for
development)  then put more info of why not release stable ... packagekit
update-system memory consumation etc,etc .....

If i end user i would like to know why my distro its not updated and not
release as new.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Andres Vargas <zod...@foresightlinux.org>wrote:

> Hi richard of course we can .. :> for info asap on IRC plz. welcome to
> foresight packaging.
>
> The next time create a new thread for package problems on mail-list
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:08 AM, richard kim <r...@rattaroaz.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone.  If I can make a request, after releasing the next version of
>> foresightlinux, would someone be willing to do a "teach how to package
>> with
>> conary" session?  I tried to go through the documents, but I can't figure
>> it
>> out.  It seems to jump around, it is hard to follow, and nothing I do
>> seems
>> to work.  (I'm not that smart either).  I would be willing to rewrite some
>> of it as needed, and even do a video tutorial if I can figure it out.  I
>> just need to be able to figure it out first.  This might be a good way to
>> kick off the rebirth of foresight as well.  Thanks.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Zhang Sen <zh.je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > As everybody knows, there are not many new users coming at this
>> > moment. But sometimes we do see new users, such as
>> > http://forum.foresightlinux.org/index.php?topic=867.0. And the most
>> > frequent scenario that happens is like this:
>> >
>> > Q: Is foresight still alive?
>> > A: Yes. But only for devel/qa branches.
>> > Q: OK. But I met a problem (example:  and
>> > http://forum.foresightlinux.org/index.php?topic=869.0).
>> > A: You need to install the foo and bar packages from the qa branch.
>> > Q: ... (system is messed up)
>> >
>> > What I have been thinking is that, having the 2.1.x releases available
>> > is actually hurting us. It presents a false impression about foresight
>> > to the new users. Users got a broken system (esp. about hardware
>> > support); and there is no way we can fix the problem for the user; and
>> > user thinks foresight packages are all old and one needs various
>> > tweaks to make it work.
>> >
>> > What I propose is that, we pull the old releases down from the
>> > website, and put the qa images there, along with a warning that
>> > "Foresight is still alive, but there is no releases recently. If you
>> > want to have a try, use the qa images at your own risk."
>> >
>> > Jesse
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