Hi nepbabu, On Jun 18, 8:09 am, "nepbabu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:01:59PM -0000, Bibek Paudel wrote: > > Let me rephrase. :) > I meant fossians outside Kathmandu but within Nepal. > Exactly what I wanted to say but at 3.00 am my head doesn't work. :) > Yes, the FOSS policy/constitution should be worked in such a way as to > include the members from outside Kathmandu (again within Nepal though). > This is what I exactly meant as well. I am not saying that Foss doesn't > do it. What I am saying that the fossians in this list (at least what I > am aware of, I do not know what's happening behind this list) doesn't make > it well enough that members from outside Kathmandu are encouraged to > participate.
Thanks for a calm and composed reply. It is good that this is turning out to be quite a thread. > About CAN Infotech I do not think I have any comment as it's nature is well > understood amongst fossian circle. > Albeit, having good gizmos to show to people is good, but imho it's a mad mad > selling point for hardware industry in Nepal which has nothing to do with the > word >"infotech" at all! For e.g., where are discussion groups ? where's are > inspiring speeches by technologist? where are papers discussed ? and lastly > what about some > hard fact reports on Nepali IT scene? Actually you can find > nothing there! Only gizmos, books and softwares. In fact, I have never been to any CAN Infotech yet. I have read about some conferences and papers presentations there and the show being touted as Nepal's version of CeBIT. I don't know how it is in reality. > Yes, I think I agree too that lots of stuff (including technology) has > been kathmandu-centric. This is something exactly I wanted to point out > as well. As you pointed out, it's a huge responsibility of free software > movement BUT free software movement alone can't achieve those goals. It's > people, government, education, media and lots of other factors that play in > vital role too. BUT again 'tis very true that foss celebration within > Kathmandu doesn't mean that it's a success for the whole of free > software in Nepal. > The way to start imho is to have I believe, a foss group in their own > home city/village that they coordinate themselves given some computing power > in the first place in some villages that don't have money to buy them. Yeah, that's why OLPC is one fine project. It will try to equip people with the powers that they had been lacking. Computer technology is slowly becoming what automobiles once were, weapons for a few privileged to gain an upper hand over the others (read NOTES ON TECHNOLOGY AND CULTURE http://web.mit.edu/~kken/Public/PDF/Software%20Localization.pdf) . > Noted. Yes, if such fossians do exist in this list, please spread > a word about foss movement in your city/village so that foss can work > towards it in future and they can become a member of it. > The important thing to note is that a foss member should enjoy being a > fossian. This last point is very important imho. If it's not an enjoyment, > then it just becomes another order from someone, another fad! > If a fossian does not enjoy being a fossian, say in this list what it is > that's > making it not so enjoyable in this list. > Everyone has brains I believe so that fossians will try to make it work. ;) Lets not forget. My observation tells me that only a handful of people are regularly active in this list. It hasnt yet seen the growth we expect of such group. That may be the reason for our unrealistic expectation. > OK, what I wanted to tell here simply was that, if fossians outside KTM > are aware of foss plus if they are welcomed into foss to have their > voice, they might be well positioned to shape and position foss nepal > too (if the message don't turn up right, blame Google groups. hehehehe.. :) > > On a positive note, I believe some fossians are working on LTSP projects as I > have > seen quite a few of them discussed here which I believe will bring > some kind of computing in some city/village along with some foss > imbrued value which *HOPEFULLY* will make them aware of FOSS. > But let's not count on that HOPEFULLY bit and wait for HOPEFULLY to > become NOPEFULLY. :) > > <encoded in my brain> > I know it's easy to criticize but hard to achieve non-criticism. I am > trying to convey words about "constructive" criticism and not intended > to criticize anyone in particular. :) > </encoded in my brain> > > Just my .02 > > Thanks Bibek for taking time to write such a long mail. :) Thanks for your wise thoughts too. It isn't so hard for a mail to grow long (boringly ?) if you have certain feelings associated with it. Lets keep the discussion alive! Cheers ! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ FOSS Nepal mailing list [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
