Or perhaps Page Break?  LOL -- I just saw that.  Is that how to force
a connected page?

Thanks!

Deirdre

On 10/20/08, Deirdre Reagan <deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Lester:
>
> I just right-clicked my text frame and checked object properties --
> the autoconnect box is selected.
>
> How can I add a page that isn't a disconnected page?  The only way I
> know how to add pages is to keep hitting return until a new page shows
> up, or go to Special > Add Disconnected Page.
>
> Is there some option I should be clicking to make my menu option read
> Special > Add Connected Page?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deirdre
>
> On 10/20/08, Lester C. Smalley <lsmalley at infocon.com> wrote:
> > The "not visible" frame may well be on another page that is not visible.
> > I think that is far more likely than the layers, although that is also a
> > possibility.
> >
> > The biggest thing is exactly as Art notes: the "autoconnect" property.
> > This should be ON for all your main text frames, both on the body pages
> > themselves, and the master pages, regardless of whether they are custom
> > master pages or the default Right/Left pair, unless you have some very
> > specialized page design needs.
> >
> > Whenever a disconnected page is added to a document, the autoconnect
> > setting will be turned OFF on that page, and so anything you add to it
> > will not 'autoflow' to a new pages, such as adding rows to a table.  If
> > that happens again, instead of adding a page and connecting them
> > manually, check the properties for the text frame to see if Autoconnect
> > is turned off. If so, just turn it on and FM should automatically add a
> > new page to contain the extra table rows.
> >
> > I would strive to keep the text frame organization as simple as possible
> > - a single frame for the page is both easiest to work with and easiest
> > for another writer to follow. You can have multiple frames if your page
> > design demands it, but do not try to nest them, which can't be done
> > directly anyway - you have to add an anchored frame or a fixed graphic
> > frame.
> >
> > On Monday, October 20, 2008 15:26, Art Campbell wrote:
> >
> > | Based on your questions, it sounds as if there's something or some
> > | things wrong in your template. If I were you, I'd think about creating
> > | a new, clean template and applying it to any of your files/books that
> > | have the symptoms you're asking about. It sounds as if you're building
> > | stuff on what amounts to a flawed foundation, which isn't good.
> > |
> > | * The "not visible" frame could be on a layer under another frame --
> > | mostly likely the result of modifying master pages or adding frames
> > | manually.
> > |
> > | * There isn't a program default setting for page connections; it's on
> > | a file by file, or template basis. So disconnected pages aren't the
> > | default setting, except in your particular files. Autoconnect -- a
> > | checkbox on your Master Page's text frame property sheet -- is the
> > | setting in all the Frame templates and in most cases should always be
> > | on.
> > |
> > | * You should so rarely have to add a Disconnected page that you should
> > | need to look up the procedure... For almost all books in all
> > | situations, you want autoconnected pages.
> > |
> > | * Text frames cannot be nested. You may have a text frame that
> > | contains an anchored frame, and _that_ may contain a text frame. Or
> > | you may have text frames on different layers. But you don't have
> > | nested ones.
> > |
> > | * The only reason that rows wouldn't be added to a table is if youv'e
> > | broken the automatic flow connection. If it's turned on, the rows and
> > | pages are added automatically.
> > |
> > | Art
> > |
> > | Art Campbell
> > |                           art.campbell at gmail.com
> > |   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> > | Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
> > |                                                       No disclaimers
> > | apply.
> > |                                                                DoD 358
> > |
> > |
> > | On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
> > <deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > |
> > | > Hi all:
> > | >
> > | > FM 8.0, Windows XP.
> > | >
> > | > A specific question here, but feel free to philosophize about the
> > | > nature of disconnected and connected pages in general.  I'm happy to
> > | > learn.
> > | >
> > | > In my document, when I attempt to connect two text frames, I get a
> > | > message that says "OK to use a text frame that isn't visible?"
> > | >
> > | > SPECIFIC QUESTION(s)
> > | >
> > | > What does that message mean?
> > | >
> > | > GENERAL PHILOSOPHICAL MUSINGS
> > | >
> > | > How would I find a text frame that isn't visible?  Why would I ever
> > | > use a text frame that isn't visible?
> > | >
> > | > Why does FM use disconnected pages as the default?
> > | >
> > | > How come sometimes when I add a disconnected page, one of my figures
> > | > jumps to the end of the document and the table ends up split between
> > | > two other figures?
> > | >
> > | > Can a text frame within a text frame be connected to the text frame
> > | > it's within? (I'm using white text to force a TOC entry -- the text
> > | > frame is usually on its own page, but not in this case, so I cut and
> > | > pasted the text frame into another text frame -- I guess I could
> > have
> > | > just typed the white text into the existing text frame.  I didn't
> > | > think of that until right now.  Anyhow, I'd still like to know.)
> > | >
> > | > How come sometimes when I add rows to my table, FM automatically
> > adds
> > | > a new page, but other times, the new rows disappear until I add a
> > page
> > | > and connect it to the table page?  Does it have anything to do with
> > | > using Left / Right Master pages versus Custom Left and Custom Right
> > | > master pages?
> > | >
> > | > I could go on, but I imagine you all have jobs you need to do.
> > | >
> > | > Sprightly yours,
> > | >
> > | > Deirdre
> >
> > - Lester
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