I'd think a vendor would say I'm going to create an application that kicks FM's 
butt and as part of it, can ingest FM files.

What do I know. Thanks everyone

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc....@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:12 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

This isn't an unusual request (to migrate to another tool) .. but typically 
when someone is a "FM user" with FM files, they would have FrameMaker available 
to export to a neutral format.

FM isn't used by enough people to warrant creating a separate application for 
migration.

...scott


On 2/11/19 10:57 AM, John Posada wrote:
> This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that nobody 
> has come along and offered an application for people who are FM users 
> but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold 
> <peter@petergold.photography>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, John:
>>
>> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have to 
>> be an early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to 
>> Adobe. I use ID
>> CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
>>
>> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are acceptable 
>> on the corporate network, and which of them do folks on the list 
>> think is the best one to migrate to, so as to avoid having to slog 
>> through this effort going forward?
>>
>> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of 
>> technical writing and publishing. However, security issues in the 
>> computing environments where it's used have become serious 
>> considerations, so, to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.....
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's the
>> issue.
>>> I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to make 
>>> their edits.
>>>
>>> The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be 
>>> installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by
>> connecting
>>> to Adobe, and that's a problem.
>>>
>>> BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation does 
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
>>> us.hsbc....@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
>>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
>>> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>>>
>>> Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any
>> confusion.
>>> Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, save 
>>> as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate network
>> supports,
>>> then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by a 
>>> service?
>>>
>>> If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate 
>>> network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - MIF
>> Filter
>>> for Adobe InDesign <http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid> to 
>>> convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and 
>>> abilities,
>> the
>>> conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and 
>>> specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada <jposad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like 
>>>> FM installed on their network.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any other applications that can be installed and open 
>>>> native FM
>>>> 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the 
>>>> book paradigm?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Posada
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