I expect that'd be a very bad idea. He works for a bank. On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth < [email protected]> wrote:
> I'm presuming taking a copy of the FM docs off site, installing FM & > creating MIF or PDFs or HTML (or XML for that matter) is out of the > question too? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth= > [email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:34 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < > [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files > > Lin...I'd be fine with that if you want to take the time. > > Right now, cost of the application is not a factor (well...you know, > within reason...no 250k enterprise application, but within a couple $k)... > All I would need is a pointer to the application...I'll take it from there. > You can use my name, but you cannot use my bank's name. > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada= > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Lin Sims > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:22 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < > [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files > > If you're not active on the Adobe Forums, I can ask there if anyone is > aware of a program that will import Frame binary and convert to a new > format. Do you want me to? And if so, how would you like the information > conveyed? > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:15 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'd think a vendor would say I'm going to create an application that > > kicks FM's butt and as part of it, can ingest FM files. > > > > What do I know. Thanks everyone > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada= > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:12 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files > > > > This isn't an unusual request (to migrate to another tool) .. but > > typically when someone is a "FM user" with FM files, they would have > > FrameMaker available to export to a neutral format. > > > > FM isn't used by enough people to warrant creating a separate > > application for migration. > > > > ...scott > > > > > > On 2/11/19 10:57 AM, John Posada wrote: > > > This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that > > > nobody has come along and offered an application for people who are > > > FM users but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold > > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, John: > > >> > > >> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have > > >> to be an early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to > > >> Adobe. I use ID > > >> CS6 standalone/non-subscription. > > >> > > >> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are > > >> acceptable on the corporate network, and which of them do folks on > > >> the list think is the best one to migrate to, so as to avoid having > > >> to slog through this effort going forward? > > >> > > >> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of > > >> technical writing and publishing. However, security issues in the > > >> computing environments where it's used have become serious > > >> considerations, so, to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc..... > > >> > > >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's > > >>> the > > >> issue. > > >>> I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to > > >>> make their edits. > > >>> > > >>> The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be > > >>> installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by > > >> connecting > > >>> to Adobe, and that's a problem. > > >>> > > >>> BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation > > >>> does nothing. > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada= > > >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Gold > > >>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM > > >>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < > > >>> [email protected]> > > >>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured > > >>> files > > >>> > > >>> Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any > > >> confusion. > > >>> Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, > > >>> save as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate > > >>> network > > >> supports, > > >>> then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by > > >>> a service? > > >>> > > >>> If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate > > >>> network, a round-about approach could be to use the DTP Tools - > > >>> MIF > > >> Filter > > >>> for Adobe InDesign <http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid> > > >>> to convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and > > >>> abilities, > > >> the > > >>> conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and > > >>> specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts. > > >>> > > >>> HTH > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like > > >>>> FM installed on their network. > > >>>> > > >>>> Are there any other applications that can be installed and open > > >>>> native FM > > >>>> 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the > > >>>> book paradigm? > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> John Posada > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> > > >>>> This message is from the Framers mailing list > > >>>> > > >>>> Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > >>>> homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > >>>> Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > >>>> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > >>>> Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> > > >>> This message is from the Framers mailing list > > >>> > > >>> Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > >>> homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > >>> Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > >>> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > >>> Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> *************************************************** > > >>> This message originated from the Internet. 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