There is a group that answers such questions, www.gnu.org. They wrote
the GPL. You might also be able to ask at Groklaw.net.
Ray
Dan Polansky wrote:
Dear Chris,
okay; I will create the exe in any case, regardless of the opened
licensing issue. This I will do no sooner than on the coming weekend.
But as regards licensing, IMHO we should proceed in a risk-averse way,
and consider such a bundling a license violation, unless clearly
demonstrated otherwise. My concern is not that we violate Sun's
license; my concern is that we violate FreeMind's GNU GPL.
I prefer hard facts to speculation. And I prefer to rely on the
thought and experience of a multitude of other people, those who are
experienced or if possible expert, if available. Do you know of any
other open source software licensed under GNU GPL that contains Java
bundled?
I understand that FreeMind needs Java. FreeMind also needs an
operating system, some of which are proprietary. The key point is
*bundling*, not *need*, from what I understand.
Best regards,
Dan
On Feb 18, 2008 8:25 PM, Christian Foltin (GMX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Hi Dan,
beside the licensing, do you still create the .exe for me? The
packaging needs some time to be created.
Moreover, remember, that every user of FreeMind needs Java to
execute FreeMind.
And it is only the question, if we are allowed to package and
distribute the java with our proprietary program.
We can' t claim, that the result is GPL (at least not for java
5+6, java7 is gpl, but not available AFAIK).
Perhaps, consider
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/
Best regards, Chris
Dan Polansky schrieb:
Dear Chris,
I think it should be possible for me to make it tomorrow to
produce a version of FreeMind.exe that takes the Java runtime
from a specific directory.
But what I see as an issue is the licensing of Java runtime.
Though I have already devoted some attention to copyright issues,
I am still a non-expert. FreeMind is licensed under GNU GPL;
bundling with it something that has not an open source license
seems highly risky of copyright violation.
Unless we have a clear evidence that there are no licensing
issues, we should avoid bundling with FreeMind anything without a
license compatible with GNU GPL.
Best regards,
Dan
On Feb 16, 2008 10:41 PM, Christian Foltin (GMX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Dear Dan,
this will cost you at least a couple of beer ;-)
Dan, I want to publish an installer version including the
java runtime:
FreeMind-0-8-1-max-Java-included, too. What do you think?
From the license of the runtime, it should be possible (see
below).
I would need your help in creating a freemind.exe that takes
a java.exe
from a subdirectory jre/bin/java.exe.
Can you supply such an exe, soon?
Regards,
Chris
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bundled as part of Your applets and applications ("Programs"),
(b) your Programs add significant and primary functionality
to the
Software,
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general
purpose desktop computers and servers,
(d) you distribute Software for the sole purpose of running your
Programs,
(e) you do not distribute additional software intended to replace
any component(s) of the Software,
(f) you do not remove or alter any proprietary legends or notices
contained in or on the Software,
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agreement
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and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement
amounts
and/or expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred in
connection with any claim, lawsuit or action by any third
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all Programs and/or Software.
The term "vendors" used here refers to licensees, developers, and
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Vendors must follow the terms of the J2SE Runtime Environment
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Dan Polansky schrieb:
> Dear Chris,
>
> shame and blame on me. I have now noticed that the wrong
copyright
> notice also appears in the about box of FreeMind,
accessible from the
> menu Help > About.
>
> Could you please also correct all the things there, including:
> (a) Year range,
> (b) Copyright mark (see also the 0.9.0 series for how to
enter the
> proper copyright mark)
> (c) The list of major contributors.
>
> I do not know how to compensate you for this additional work,
> resulting from my inattentive previous review.
>
> Best regards,
> Dan
>
>
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