Hi Claudia

now I'm confused. Did you put control points in those voxels? You definitely, definitely must avoid putting them in voxels that contain anything other than WM. The pial surface will usually be incorrect if the white surface is incorrect, so the first thing to do is make sure it is right

Bruce


On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:

But in "brainmask.mgz lh.white -aux T1.mgz -aux-surface rh.white
-segmentation aseg.mgz" it's labeled as white matter, could it be possible?


2013/4/29 Claudia Dacquino <claudia.dacqu...@gmail.com>
      Actually it could not be WM, but I'm quite sure that there is
      grey matter excluded by pial bounaries as well, how can I add
      that?


2013/4/29 Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
      visually is the only way. Do you think it is white matter?
      On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:

            Yes it's my doubt too, but how can I check
            this?


            2013/4/29 Bruce Fischl
            <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                  then it's not rerunning the -cp. And is
            it really wm if it's
                  that dark?
                  On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Claudia Dacquino
            wrote:

                  Bruce,no the intensity is lesser then
            110 at those voxels,
                  it's like 60-70.
                  Claudia


                  2013/4/29 Bruce Fischl
            <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                        is the intensity at those voxels
            110 after you have
                  processed
                        with autorecon2-cp?
                        On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Claudia
            Dacquino wrote:

                              The problem is that after
            editng manually WM
                  by
                              adding control points, I
                              still have some WM and GM
            areas not included
                  in
                              either the pial or WM
                              boundaries, but I can see
            that there are
                  control
                              points added (green
                              cosses), but they seem  not
            to be processed by
                  the
                              autorecon2-cp autorecon3.
                              Thanks
                              Claudia



                              2013/4/29 Bruce Fischl
                  <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                                    Hi Claudia

                                    can you describe the
            problems? And cc
                  the list
                              so that others
                                    can help?
                                    thanks
                                    Bruce

                                    On Mon, 29 Apr 2013,
            Claudia Dacquino
                  wrote:

                                    Hi Bruce,I think
            wm.mgz it's accurate
                  enough,
                              but what you
                                    mean?
                                    I'm trying to upload
            data, but I've
                  problems
                              with your
                                    server.
                                    Cheers,
                                    Claudia


                                    2013/4/29 Bruce Fischl
                              <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                                          Hi Claudia

                                          it really
            depends on the
                  individual case
                              and what's
                                    causing the
                                          exclusion. Does
            the wm.mgz look
                              accurate? If so, you
                                    may have a
                                          topological
            defect that is being
                  fixed
                              incorrectly.
                                    Usually we
                                          focus on fixing
            the white boundary
                  and
                              that will
                                    also correct
                                          the pial. You
            can set the expected
                  gray
                              matter
                                    intensities in
                                          the xopts file,
            but that is rarely
                              necessary and
                                    only if your
                                          gray matter
            looks very different
                  than
                              the sequences
                                    we are used
                                          to.

                                          If you can't
            sort it out feel free
                  to
                              upload you
                                    data.

                                          cheers
                                          Bruce


                                          On Mon, 29 Apr
            2013, Claudia
                  Dacquino
                              wrote:

                                                Hi
            Freesurfers,I have a
                  question
                              about pial
                                    editing.
                                                I have
            some reconructions in
                  which
                              there's a
                                    lot of
                                                grey
            matter excluded,
                                                and
            consequently white
                  metter too.
                              I did
                                    correct
                                                these
            images manually by
                                                control
            points editing, and
                  then
                              autorecon2-cp
                                               
            autorecon3, but some
                  cortical
                                                grey
            matter continues to not
                  be
                              included in
                                    the pial
                                                surface,
            and I have
                                                white
            matter areas that are
                  still
                              not included
                                    in
                                                either the
            pial or white
                                                matter
            boundaries. 
                                                Is there
            anyother ethods for
                              adding grey
                                    matter in
                                                the pial
            surfeces other
                                                than
            editing control points
                  (such
                              as by
                                    editing
                                                voxels to
            add grey matter),
                                                or
            something like that?
                                                Thanks for
            your help.
                                                Claudia




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