Call it a morbid fascination with how other seem to *really* seem to enjoy
word games, Nick.

But the question was genuine:  what possible gain (in your opinion, of
course) will come out of this?  Where's the added value?  What's the benefit
about attempting to talk about emergence in the context of unraveling a
sweater?

--Doug

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Nicholas Thompson <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Eric,
>
> I like the example.  Thank you.
>
> Doug
>
> I stipulate that you don't like this topic.  But wait a minute!  You
> responded to the thread!? That's odd!
>
> If interested, the reading this week is the aforementioned Bedau.
>
> Best,
>
> Nick
>
>  Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
> Clark University ([email protected])
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Douglas Roberts <[email protected]>
> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group<[email protected]>
> *Sent:* 9/25/2009 8:22:04 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Inquiry to Emergence Group
>
> Groan.
>
> What possible gain will come of trying to add yet more baggage to that
> already overloaded, mythical, magical  "emergence" word by trying to
> force-fit the process of knitting a sweater on to it?
>
> --Doug
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:08 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> This morning, I saw an interesting emergence problem on a children's
>> television show, and thought I would send a query to the group.
>>
>> As is prone to happen, a character received a knitted sweater, which
>> promptly caught on something and began to unravel. By the time they noticed
>> it was just one long string. They then followed the string back, ending up
>> with a large ball of string. They had the string, which is all the sweater
>> was; but of course, they did not in any reasonable sense have "the sweater".
>>
>>
>> I was wondering how the different authors in the book would describe this
>> situation. In particular, it would seem natural to say that the string isn't
>> the sweater BECAUSE the sweater is "emergent".
>>
>> Hopefully that example is of interest to more than just me,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> P.S. Look Nick, I maintained your thread dominance request!
>>
>> =
>>
>
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