Eric, 

Those of us who are concerned for your career development (e.g., tenure) are 
NOT reassured to learn you have broken your vow to limit your postings to one a 
day.  

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/




----- Original Message ----- 
From: ERIC P. CHARLES 
To: Russ Abbott
Cc: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: 9/25/2009 10:16:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Inquiry to Emergence Group


Good lord man, it is still morning! 

Russ,
Yours was a completely satisfying answer! At least in so much as it showed how 
the sweater example would be treated within one system of dealing with 
emergence. Yet, it cannot completely satisfy my inquiry, because the original 
was not about any particular individual's way of thinking about things, but 
about the breadth of established ways. I am hoping that additional answers 
(such as that given by Glen) will appear, that I may better understand (read, 
be able to describe in my own terms) how such a mundane example is handled by 
different systems. In particular, I ask the question publicly, because I am 
interested in other people's understanding of the alternatives. 

Eric

P.S. I feel guilty already. I'm trying hard not to post more than once a day on 
any of my lists and already I am up to four on this one! Let no one else feel 
slighted if their post does not receive a reply until some time tomorrow, maybe 
even Sunday. Rest assured that I am reading them throughtout the day and 
dwelling upon them.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 12:03 PM, Russ Abbott <[email protected]> wrote:

Eric,

I took your initial question as having been asked in good faith. And I answered 
in good faith. It seems to me that you owe me a response to my answer. Did it 
satisfy your question? If not, why not?

-- Russ A




On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES <[email protected]> wrote:

Thus spoke Glen:

"Just to be clear, you're asking for (at least one of) us
to simulate what(some or all of) the authors in Bedau & Humphreys would
say about whetheror not the sweater emerges from the thread?  I.e. you are
NOT asking for OURopinions. "Yeah, that was the
idea!Regarding Rosen: I am intriguedthat the answer was entirely in
terms of the cause, rather than the entityitself.
Thanks!Eric

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