<groan>
Knot to needle you put I think you are throwing pearls before twine.
</groan>
Robert

Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Eric,
I like the example. Thank you. Doug I stipulate that you don't like this topic. But wait a minute! You responded to the thread!? That's odd! If interested, the reading this week is the aforementioned Bedau. Best, Nick Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University ([email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>)
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Douglas Roberts <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* 9/25/2009 8:22:04 AM
    *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Inquiry to Emergence Group

    Groan.

    What possible gain will come of trying to add yet more baggage to
    that already overloaded, mythical, magical  "emergence" word by
    trying to force-fit the process of knitting a sweater on to it?

    --Doug

    On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:08 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Greetings,
        This morning, I saw an interesting emergence problem on a
        children's television show, and thought I would send a query
        to the group.

        As is prone to happen, a character received a knitted sweater,
        which promptly caught on something and began to unravel. By
        the time they noticed it was just one long string. They then
        followed the string back, ending up with a large ball of
        string. They had the string, which is all the sweater was; but
        of course, they did not in any reasonable sense have "the
        sweater".

        I was wondering how the different authors in the book would
        describe this situation. In particular, it would seem natural
        to say that the string isn't the sweater BECAUSE the sweater
        is "emergent".

        Hopefully that example is of interest to more than just me,

        Eric

        P.S. Look Nick, I maintained your thread dominance request!

        =

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