Weird. "What I want" is different from "what I want to be true". I can answer 
the former, but not the latter. For example, I want to have less fat around my 
torso. But I can't say anything about whether I want it to be true *that* I 
have less fat around my torso.

In the context of public health ... what I want is for the public to be 
healthier ... e.g. less fat. (FWIW, I don't care that much about people dying 
... of any particular condition from covid to guns ... but I do care that while 
they're alive, they be healthier. So I care more about the long-term impacts of 
covid infection than I do dying from covid infection.) When you ask a question 
like "what do you want to be true about public health", I get confused.

On 4/7/21 12:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Please don’t over interpret.  I was not calling anybody out.  I was asking a 
> question.  I “want” it to be the case that concerted community action can be 
> effective and that “law” plays a role is such actions.  I surmise that others 
> “want” something else to be true, but I don’t know what that is. It’s a 
> feeling I get from many members of this list, Dave, EricC, Glen, Marcus, even 
> your honored self.   Notice that in this case Dave and I are both exploring 
> the possibility that public health campaigns have less effect than the are 
> supposed to.  But while such revelations make me uneasy, they seem to cause 
> Dave a jolt of pleasure.   Now I am just reading a new note from Dave on the 
> other screen that suggests that I totally misunderstand him, so perhaps I 
> should leave off this, and look at that.   
> 
>  
> 
> I think I am not truly a complexity fan because if I were, I would see that 
> we never have enough information to control out fate as a community.  The 
> foreseen consequences dwarf the foreseen ones.   But doesn’t also follow the 
> cannot control our fates as individuals, also? And that leads to sophomoric 
> despair, which I also deplore.  So, you see, my conversation with Dave is not 
> really about covid, but about life led in uncertainty. 
> 

>         Still, I want to know -- NOT a rhetorical question -- why you WANT to 
> believe that public health measures don't work. 

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