Karen,

I think that if you want to know how to deal with suicide
bombers, you go to the people with most experience with
them. There is nothing sinister about this. Chris is an
anti-Semite and continually blames the those who are trying
to protect the citizenry from the murderers. Hence the
subject, which I have replaced.

I suppose the point of view of the anti-terrorists changes a
lot when failure leaves bodies and limbs strewn about the
place. I remember when I was 16 going home for breakfast
after an all night raid. 

A lady called out "Warden!" - thereby promoting me - I was a
lowly Messenger, but I was wearing a steel helmet.

"Warden, can you do something about that?"

I turned and there was a mess of bloody entrails in the
middle of the road. (They had actually been blown right over
a church.) I said I would deal with it - then continued home
to breakfast.

Which I devoured happily, read the paper and went to sleep.

Callousness? Not really - just facing the reality of things.
And this was a minor incident - nothing like the situation
in Israel - or now in Britain.

Thanks for once again giving us a useful cite.

Harry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:futurework-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Watters Cole
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Futurework] London Assassins were Trained in
> Israel
> 
> He did already. I checked, curious myself.
> Second item mentions the IDF training.
> 
> Refs:
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,15347
79,0
> 0.html
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,15347
53,0
> 0.html
> 
> Also remember that the "some" Israeli commando training
> occurred at Ft Bragg
> just before troops were deployed in 2003.
> 
> I'm not blaming the IDF for training where they've been
invited to
> share
> what they've learned about guerrilla warfare, as long as
it includes
> learning from their mistakes as well. Since 2003 the IDF
has had its
> own
> share of remorse experiences, both internally and
externally.
> 
> But I do blame the zealotry of some in the US
administration for
> rushing
> into a cyclone, using tactics that inflamed rather then
becalmed the
> citizens they were occupying.  Rumsfeld and Campone did
not
> relieve Boynton
> of duty after his misguided public statements revealed his
'God is
> my
> trigger finger' zeitgeist. They've not honestly addressed
the
> panicked
> policy overreactions that led to Abu Ghraib, which we know
were
> practiced at
> Gitmo first. The only reason Gonzales may not have been
Bush's
> nominee is
> because he is linked to the torture memos. Friday the
Executive
> Branch
> refused to comply with a judge's order to release the
remainder of
> the Abu
> Ghraib images, which are more incendiary than those
already
> released.
> 
> They don't believe that leaders can admit mistakes, that
it's a sign
> of
> weakness to apologize. "They" are not fit for command.
> 
> KwC
> 
> Chris, are you sure that IDF trained the UK police who
killed the
> electrician?  Can you give us a source for that?
> 
> Cheers,
> Lawry



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