Re: suicide bombers and terrorism.

"A thing long expected takes the form of the unexpected when at last it comes." (Mark Twain)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:33 PM
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca; Karen Watters Cole
Subject: Re: [Futurework] London Assassins were Trained in Israel

As Nietzche put it  "... if you gaze too long into the abyss, the abyss will gaze into you".  Maybe that's where we're going?
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Futurework] London Assassins were Trained in Israel

I think it’s the five shots to the head that sets this apart from the average mistaken identity killing, allowing for adrenalin and literal rush to avoid a detonation. Was he not dead after the first two?

London with its minority populations does not need to acquire the reputation for excessive force that the IDF or LA PD have.  Britain does not need an intifada or home grown race violence, as Keith worries about.

The Japanese would have the same public perception problem if this happened in a Tokyo subway to a Korean migrant worker.

kwc

 

Harry's question still stands. 

I know that it would be nice to avoid grievances and for us all to live in peace and harmony.  But at this juncture: What to do?

If the police don't shoot they are blamed.  If the police shoot they are blamed.

arthur

-----Original Message-----
 
Chris,

What would you do if someone in a heavy overcoat on a hot
day - someone who was under your surveillance - went into
the subway and boarded a train, soon after similar
situations in which bombs had been exploded killing 50
people?

You needn't answer, for you are never faced with that
situation.

It's always easy - for a non-player - to complain at
mistakes made by those who are trying to save multiple
casualties and must think and act quickly.

Harry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:futurework-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:16 PM
> To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
> Subject: [Futurework] London Assassins were Trained in
Israel
>
> As the Guardian reports, the squad who executed an
innocent man
> in the
> Stockwell tube station with 5 shots to the head, have been
trained in
> Israel in the IDF style of dealing with "suspects" --
shoot to kill,
> playing policeman, attorney, judge and henchman in one
person at
> the same time.
>
> Refs:
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,15347
79,0
> 0.html
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,15347
53,0
> 0.html
>
> The British public has to wonder if it really wants to
copy the
> archaic
> travesty of a rule of law from Israel.  From a historical
perspective,
> it's a shameful irony that Britain now allows its
"anti-terror" forces
> to be trained by the same state that performed terrorist
attacks
> against
> British civilians and forces in Palestine and elsewhere in
the 1940s,
> and
> appointed the leaders of these terrorist groups to its
first Prime
> Ministers.
>
> Chris
>
 


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