Natalia wrote:
> Is that gasoline analogy like the one about the virtuoso's violin going
> up in value because of the its inherent tone? You are comparing apples
> to oranges. Gas has never shaped automobiles in the way that water has
> done for our planet and for life on it.
The point is that you have to distinguish between the object and the
liquid in it. The object is alive/propelling, but not the liquid --
although the liquid is a necessary prerequisite (but not a sufficient one!)
for life/propulsion.
> Try going for a week or two without water-based beverages or food, and
> get back to me.
Try giving water to a dead person, and get back to me if that gives life
back to the person.
> I would argue that reproduction is not the only validation for life
> signs.
I didn't suggest it was the only one. But all lifeforms reproduce --
or they wouldn't be here anymore. It's that simple. But water doesn't
reproduce, so it's not a lifeform.
> With vitality in healthy water comes an energy, and with it the
> power to transform at the cellular level. If you drink stale water, you
> get sick or die. Drinking from ancient unpolluted glacier sources can
> revive in a way that our toxic surface water cannot.
That is only due to toxins/bacteria in the bad water and healthy minerals
in the good water. The H2O is the same in all water, and water is not alive
just because it contains some minerals (that are also dead).
Actually, with your remark on stale water, you are contradicting yourself:
If there's life in the water (bacteria, such as Legionella), then it's
UNhealthy!
> We come back to the question of whether or not Gaia lives.
No, that's a different question ("Gaia" is the composite of all kinds of
materials, as opposed to the single-molecule H2O). But you are right that
"Gaia" is another esoterical concept invented by Predators...
> Whether or not one can communicate with nature. Perhaps just another
> choice for happiness, but I buy it.
Overall, esoterical nonsense brings UNhappiness to society. Remember
the Middle Ages?
> > Btw, do you think water in the Alps can read Japanese?
>
> No.
Then why should water in Japan be able to read Japanese? Did this water
attend different schools than the Alpine water?
> It does perhaps indicate that there's a medium of sensitivity, a
> response to intent on the part of mind.
No matter how you try to evade, the claim would require that the water
_understands_ what is written.
> >> /Suggesting that water is alive, as Parry did, is esoterical nonsense.
> >> That's how Predators hijack science./
>
> I would think that attributing life, or at the very least, the giver of
> life, to water would be in the best interests of those who know that
> water is what keeps this planet going, and those who understand that it
> shouldn't be exploited by Predators.
You are using double standards. You say that industry pollutes out of greed
but esoterical snake-oil peddlers do not pollute because they're the good guys.
Guess what, Predators are the bad guys no matter on which "side" they pose.
However, esoterical nonsense gives Predators much greater opportunities than
science does, because science can be verified! And science is about knowing
what you're doing, which is necessary to fix things. So science is in the
best interest of environmentalists. (Note that corruption of science is
not science but lack of science!)
> Yeah, well, there are Predators everywhere, exploiting everything.
> Pharma kills more per capita than the occasional delusional scientist
> with their natural remedies.
It's only logical that homeopaths kill few patients, because their
"remedies" are basically just sugar pills. But please don't confuse
that with natural remedies -- which can be powerful indeed. Talking
about "live foods" is a different topic, because the chemistry of
e.g. omega-3 fatty acids is actually different in fresh food versus
dead (rancid) food. But H2O is always H2O! (Other ingredients
such as minerals are a different issue again.)
> Pharma wants us to believe that toxic chemicals are the essentials to life.
The old Tweedledee-Tweedledum rhetoric that's so typical of Dems. The fact
that Big Pharma is bad doesn't mean that we have to trust voodoo "medicine".
The fact that Republicans are bad doesn't mean that Obama(care) is good.
Predators are bad on both "sides"!
In fact, the Tweedledee-Tweedledum rhetoric (aka "good cop / bad cop")
is a trick used by Predators to deflect people's attention from the real
issues and to make themselves (the "good cop") look good! Indeed, that
"hydrogen bomb" homeopath was ranting and raving against Big Pharma's
greed to deflect the audience's attention (mostly chronically ill people)
from his own greed...
Chris
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