Ed,

At 19:09 31/08/2010 -0400, you wrote:
Keith, I have "Soylent Green" on DVD and have watched it every few months. Just can't help it. And Roth's "going home" is a tremendous prelude to the nasty stuff that happens next.

I haven't actually seen it for many years -- so much so that in my memory Roth's "going home" occurred at the end. Of course, Harry Harrison wrote his original book ("Make Room! Make Room!) long before the Internet and bloggers were even dreamed of, but the scene in the secret library in which Roth finally sosses out the true facts of Soylent Corporation seems to me to be prescient of the Internet today, bloggers and whistleblowers.

Keith



Ed
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Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: The Next 500 Years

Ed,

At 20:47 29/08/2010 -0400, you wrote:
The topic makes me think of movies. And movies make me think of how we can possibly even think we know. "A Space Odyssey" had us flying about in space with a truly marvellous computer in 2001. "Soylent Green" saw New York with a hugely unemployed population of 40 million and food requirements met by converting the dead into food by 2020.

Ah, now that's a film! I don't think I've ever willingly since a film more than once -- except Soylent Green, and I think I've seen this about four times. It had a great deal of an authentic ring about it than not. The recycling of bodies is very far from being far-fetched either. In some parts of China during Mao Zedong's Great Leap Forward millions were starving so badly that parents were selling their young children to other parents for food, while the latter, in turn, were selling their own children. Soylent Green is far less shocking than that. The scene of Roth "going home" is especially memorable.

But if there's one thing that can be said with absolute certainty about 500 years into the future it is that status will still be all-important driver of human behaviour after basic needs have been met. The genetic propensity to status is the means by which every single group of people becomes stabilized. Status means that every single group or organization produces one leader with, at the most, only a small group of confidants around him (or her, much more rarely).

This applies whether we are talking of a dictatorship or a democracy, left-wing governments or right-wing, the local knitting circle or the Indian Railway (supposedly the largest employer in the world). The fact of status is so strong that theonly possible outcome in any collectivity is that one person is forced to the top or one person finagles his way to the top.

And once there his power is enormous. The reverse side of the coin is our propensity to deference. Once status is sorted out and once a leader emerges then almost everybody else becomes biddable. (There are always a few mavericks but they're usually individuals who are so charged with ambition themselves that they cannot avoid being nuisances.)

Deference to leadership meant that thousands of Germans took part in the extermination of millions of Jews and Gypsies in WW2 with hardly a murmur and not a single protest. Deference to leadership meant that President Bush, with no more than three supporters) could decide to invade Iraq with most of the population going along with it. In the UK the status-deference syndrome meant that only Prime Minister Tony Blair and Foreign Secretary Jack Straw needed to decide to support Bush, and the rest of the Cabinet lamely agreed. It only took an absurd lie by Tony Blair (that Saddam Hussein could attack the UK with "weapons of mass destruction" at 45 minutes' notice) for the House of Commons and then most of the rest of the country to agree.

What is less certain about the next 500 years is whether evolutionary biology will be taught widely enough so people will be more vigilant in whom they select as their leaders of this or that. Furthermore, that they will design all their organizations, large or small such that leaders are always much more accessible to be pulled down from power whenever necessary.

Keith


"Blade Runner" saw us making humanoid robots in some not distant future and shipping them off to far off places in the universe and then making sure they didn't come back to Earth.

Five hundred years ago, in 1510, the new world had just been discovered. Very little of the great ruination that took place as a result had as yet happened and Christian Europe was still trying to recover from Islamic invasion (so what's new?). There was as yet no industrial or scientific revolution even if the seeds were there. Could anyone then have predicted what the world would be like in 500 years?

Ed


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