Keith wrote: > At 14:15 03/10/2010 -0700, Sandwichman wrote (in a civilized and > non-abusive way): ... > >The lad doth protest too much, methinks. I'm reminded of the 'family > >values' Republicans who time and again get caught with their pants > >down on the wrong side of town. Or the law and order zealots taking > >kick-backs from mobsters. > > > >As a shorter work time advocate even I must confess to the hypocrisy > >of burning the midnight oil for the cause of leisure. But this > >one-note refrain of "predator" leaves me especially unconvinced. For > >starters there's the black and white dichotomy of predators and prey. > >No colors. No shades of gray. Dichotomy is the cradle for delusion. > > Precisely.
No, Keith, it was NOT "civilized and non-abusive" to compare me with "the 'family values' Republicans who time and again get caught with their pants down on the wrong side of town", to misrepresent my writing about the P/P "dichotomy", and to not address the content of my critique of Marx at all. (Neither did you address it. "Me too" is not an argument.) > And I would gently suggest to one or two FW subscribers who find > it hard to accept, that human society is instinctively predisposed to a > multitude of status levels, each generally deferring to the one above, This is an ideological claim by those who project their own mindset to everyone else. Unable to think beyond their own box? > and each generally "predating", as it were, on the next one lower down. Even if one assumes a hierarchy, it does not have to be "predating". A hierarchy of _Producers_ can be based on competence & cooperation, instead of oppression & predation. Although that is hard to imagine in the United Kingdom (sic) with its medieval caste system and Thatcherism. > And predation occurs in many guises, physical, financial -- even verbal. Predation requires power and/or violence in order to gain money or privilege, so your allegation cannot apply to my role on this list. Chris _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
