World control - Yes. But *who* is behind it. Not the lackeys doing the selling to the masses (those within the government institutions, or those working in middle or upper management for the measly crumbs they may garner). They are most likely ignorant of the full impact themselves. They just want a piece of the pie for themselves and have few scruples on how to achieve that end so they stay with the money. No, there are a few "tricksters" out there who will eventually, and inevitably, start warring on each other using the desperate poor once again as the cannon fodder for their sick games of control.

D.


On 19/06/2012 7:59 AM, michael gurstein wrote:

    Yes, and it has been a very long time since I read Marx on this
    but I have a feeling that what we are seeing is a qualitatively
    more advanced form of distortion... One where the bad guys are
    able to actually get in and manipulate at a level of
    detail (informed by neuroscience, psychology, anthropology etc.)
    that the Churches etc. were not sufficiently sophisticated to be
    able to achieve. I think it is rather more on the level of 1984
    where people are able to make others believe that 2+2=5
    (creationism etc.) and not only believe it but believe it
    passionately and aggressively against all rhyme or reason... Also,
    an element in the process is to reconstruct social relationships
    ("networked individualism") where the technology plays a key role
    so that individuals don't have the means to achieve the solidarity
    which would allow them to move beyond false
    consciousness/ideological manipulation. Hence the circle is closed.
    M
    -----Original Message-----
    *From:* [email protected]
    [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
    *Arthur Cordell
    *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:12 AM
    *To:* 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
    *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] gloomy America

    See

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consciousness

    *From:*[email protected]
    [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
    *michael gurstein
    *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:54 AM
    *To:* 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
    *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] gloomy America

        Unfortunately, I agree with the paragraph quoted but only up
        to the end of the first (long) sentence... My gloomy
        assessment is that the bad guys have now been more or less
        able to close the circle (through the judicious use of the
        media, huge amounts of money, complacent political classes,
        and an effective intervention into the noosphere (societal
        ideation)).  The evidence from Wisconsin, Greece, Canada is
        that they are able to twist democracy to support policies
        which make things worse for the mass of the population and to
        put in place measures which lock-in and reinforce their
        political position.  My feeling is that the system is more
        likely to implode rather than move to any broadly desireable
        outcome including the laughable insanity of " return of true
        capitalism and the free market" whatever on earth that might
        possibly mean.

        M

         -----Original Message-----
        *From:* [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
        *Arthur Cordell
        *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:23 AM
        *To:* 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
        *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] gloomy America

        From Steve Kurtz.

        *From:*[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve
        Kurtz
        *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:42 AM
        *Subject:* [Ottawadissenters] Clive Maund

        (thanks to A.P. in Zurich)

        Note that this is apart from natural resource bottlenecks
        which could inhibit material throughput in future recovery
        attempts.

        Steve

        http://www.clivemaund.com/article.php?art_id=2744

        last bits of a short article:

         The world needs a long and deep depression in order to purge
        itself of excess debt and the distortions, inefficiences and
        misallocation of capital resulting therefrom, and it is going
        to get it, QE and hyperinflation first or not. All the daily
        noise in the media about the Greek election, or any elections,
        or the hyped up Fed meetings and pronouncements, or what Mrs
        Merkel thinks and says etc is just irrelevant fluff, detail
        and distraction for the unthinking masses, and ultimately is
        not going to avert the grim outcome of this appalling mess.
        Not until all this debt is repudiated and the world has gotten
        the usurious banking system off its back, with its tentacles
        reaching deep into government everywhere, will the world be
        able to move forward again. Then at long last we will be able
        to hail the return of true capitalism and the free market.



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