> This has been discussed in the past, and the general feeling is that > shaping the borders and doing more titlebar decoration will add too > much bloat.
I'm not big on themed borders, myself--the options already in Fvwm for that work fine for me. I only tweaked the titlebars. The hack is actually quite lightweight: it adds, on my system, several K to the final stripped binary if FANCY_TITLEBARS is defined, and adds nothing if it isn't. Of course, I recognize that there is such a thing as source-code bloat (aka #ifdef hell :-), and if you guys don't want to make this standard, I understand. In that case, I'll just share the patch on the users list for those who are interested. Once I work out the annoying titleunder-update bug, anyways. > I think if you really want to make any progress with this, you > would first want to show how nifty this would look. Funny you should mention that :-) I've recently been grabbing screenshots to include in an Fvwm-touting page off my website. I haven't done any other development yet, but I can put up just the screenshots ahead of time. http://www.igs.net/~tril/fvwm/ This shows off several window-decorations I particularly like: Eazel, QNX, Helix Sweetpill, and Infadel (the new IceWM default theme). All of them depend on extra pixmaps: some have titleunders, others just have special transitions at either end of the titlebar (i.e. the curved ends of Sweetpill). The latter is possible with regular Fvwm but it's kludgy: you have to define "decoy" pixmap buttons and make them Nop. This is the approach that the folks at fvwm-themes.sourceforge.net take for rendering stuff like NanoGUI. Infadel, if you look closely, shows off all six pixmaps: main, titleunder, and the four transitions. Suzanne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.igs.net/~tril/ "I'm aware of that, sweetheart. It's just that when I wake up to a hissing goat skull on my nightstand, and it hops off and runs across the floor on spider legs, I sleep a lot better knowing where it ran off to." - Ted (Red Meat) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at <URL:http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]