Ok, I have to say something in Microsoft's defense here. =) We here
at the DOE and the K-12 Kentucky educational system have the largest
Microsoft proxy server implementation in the world. It consists of ~1700
servers and supports ~650,000 users. Since its implementation it has been
rock solid. The problems that we have had (most of which have been
performance related issues at the top level), have been quickly solved and
put to rest. The product is easy to setup and manage... _with proper
planning_. That's the key. Proper planning. I know that a lot of problems
people have with Microsoft Proxy Server is because they didn't carefully
evaluate their needs and works towards a solution that best fits them.
Proxy Server can be a complex product if you use some of the more advanced
features, and should never be thought of as a quick-setup-and-run product.
My experience _with_ the product and level of support _for_ the product has
been nothing but excellent.
Thanks,
Abe
PS-I'm not affiliated with Microsoft in any way. This is just my 2 cents.
=)
Abe L. Getchell - Systems Engineer
System Support Services
Kentucky Department of Education
Voice 502-564-2020x225
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web http://www.kde.state.ky.us/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 4:36 PM
> To: Carric Dooley
> Cc: Rick Francis; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [FW1] ms 2000 proxy
>
>
>
> Carric Dooley wrote:
>
> > Trust me... MS Proxy will probably never be able to come
> anywhere NEAR CSM.
> > I personally would'nt inflict MS Proxy on my worst enemies...
> >
>
> Actually I would if it was my WORST enemy! Consider the
> recent virus problems IS
> organizations have been having. MS has known about these
> types of virus for at
> least one year and yet did nothing until it cost the world
> nearly $10 Billion. A
> least some due diligence... Anything! I sincerely believe
> that there should be a
> class action law suit against MS. My 2 cents.
>
> Regards, Richard
>
>
> >
> > 2000 may be an upgrade, but it's like trading sh*t for
> slightly better sh*t.
> > You just can't polish a turd.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 6:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FW1] ms 2000 proxy
> >
> > >
> > > actually, simultaneous connections could exceed 2-3,000;
> and even go up to
> > > 5,000.
> > > if ms proxy requires a winsock client...is the winsock
> client already on
> > > 95/98/nt desktops, are is this a seperate installation?
> > > i'm wondering now if csm can support 5,000 concurrent
> connections, since
> > it
> > > does not require a client from the desktop!?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dean Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 'Rick Francis' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Thursday, May 18, 2000 4:56 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [FW1] ms 2000 proxy
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hi Rick,
> > > >
> > > >MS proxy provides transparent authentication and logging
> of all accesses
> > > >through it for http/https/ftp also winsock and socks
> proxy. It will
> > handle
> > > >multiple domains and logs username
> > > >
> > > >I have seen people here on the list use it for a 1000+
> users (for me I
> > have
> > > >200+ users, up to 15 concurrent)
> > > >Other people on the list also use CSM proxy for user bases in the
> > '000's(as
> > > >you saw from your other post is csm ntlm compliant)
> > > >
> > > >In our case MSP just runs. I have not used CSM proxy.
> > > >
> > > >Perhaps an idea of your user size and estimated
> concurrent users, may
> > help
> > > >others with providing advice on csm or msp for your site.
> > > >
> > > >cheers
> > > >deanc
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Rick Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >Sent: Friday, 19 May 2000 9:37 AM
> > > >To: Dean Cunningham; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: [FW1] ms 2000 proxy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >i want to authenticate/cache/log nt domain users (from a
> lot of domains)
> > as
> > > >they out the internet through a firewall.
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Dean Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Date: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:12 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: [FW1] ms 2000 proxy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Rick,
> > > >>
> > > >>can you define what you want to do with ms proxy, act
> as a firewall or
> > > have
> > > >>it as a http/ftp etc. proxy?
> > > >>
> > > >>ms proxy 2000 has yet to be released , as far as I know.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Jim Noble (INFO1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2000 1:19 PM
> > > >>To: Rick Francis; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: RE: [FW1] ms 2000 proxy
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Rick
> > > >>Francis
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 8:53 PM
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: [FW1] ms 2000 proxy
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>it'd be great if any one could praise or cry foul about
> ms 2000 proxy.
> > > >>let us know.
> > > >>rick
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
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