Hi All,

This has reference to:

http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony
http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony---Sample-Chapter#comments-1820

ZF has matured into 1.0 but no books or discussions about bringing one out
yet other than some *tidbits *found on the internet (no offense intended;
most of those tidbits are indeed great pieces of code!) and the *alphabetical
*API reference guide. Joining pieces together and cross-referring to the
reference guide is no easy task - most times it results in half-baked
knowledge, not to mention - code with bottle-necks! What we need is a
complete tutorial book that does a project and utilizes all the components
in *concert *and shows how they *integrate *with each other. I interacted
with Cal earlier on this matter (email chain pasted below) about
collaborating with an experienced author - Cristain Darie.

I understand writing books takes a considerable amount of time. Any takers
with some time to spare on producing a book on ZF? Cristain would be glad to
help/guide you with getting started...

Here is another to consider:

http://devzone.zend.com/article/1118-Symfony-used-in-Yahoo-Bookmarks-Beta
(QUOTE: The documentation was the first reason for Yahoo to choose Symfony.
It reaches a unique quality and coverage in the open-source world)


Regards,





On 4/26/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Cal,
>
> Would you like me to post this idea to the gw-general list to see if there
> are any folks with writing skills that would collaborate with another
> author?
>
>
>
> On 4/6/07, Cal Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi Shekar,
> >
> > I'll have to check my notes as I don't recall Christian contacting me. I
> > know rumors of a couple of projects in the works right now but I'm not
> > currently involved with any of them.
> >
> > =C=
> >
> > Cal Evans
> > Editor-in-Chief, http://devzone.zend.com
> > AIM:CalZend  Skype: CalAtZend
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* Shekar C Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Sent:* Friday, April 06, 2007 3:11 PM
> > *To:* Cal Evans
> > *Subject:* Re: ZF Book?
> >
> >
> >  Cal,
> >
> > Well! I was wondering about the current fate of the ZF book as the
> > framework is reaching 1.0 soon. I introduced you Cristian Darie who
> > would help you with anything you folks might need from project planning,
> > writing, editing, publishing.... Was Cristian able to answer your
> > questions and guide you in any way?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/16/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cal,
> > >
> > > Here is the response from Cristian (my Yahoo ID is PowerObject):
> > >
> > > QUOTE
> > >
> > > *Cristian Darie *(3/16/2007 11:44:57 AM): Hey, thanks for this! Please
> > > put them in touch with me -- I'm not sure if I'll have the time to start
> > > writing a new book, but at least I can give them some advice. The idea of 
> > > a
> > > book on the Zend Framework sounds very exciting though!
> > >
> > > *PowerObject: *I sent your email IDs to Cal Evans ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and
> > > he might contact you. If this idea jells, there may be a couple of
> > > writers/developers who might collaborate with you. **
> > > *PowerObject*: Hi, Would you be willing to collaborate with another
> > > writer at Zend.com <http://zend.com/> on producing a book on *Zend
> > > Framework *that is reaching v1.0 ? Do let me know so I can inform them
> > > and introduce you to each other so you can take it from there...
> > >
> > > UNQUOTE
> > >
> > > Its your call now... ? :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/16/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Cal,
> > > >
> > > > No, not postulating :) I know you are a great writer with *excellent
> > > > * authoring skills! And I guess you (as an active user of ZF) are a
> > > > good fit to come up with a book on ZF around the release of 1.0 (or
> > > > even later). If you think it is too huge a task to handle, you (along 
> > > > with
> > > > some developers of ZF) could *colloborate with other authors*. I
> > > > know Cristian Darie ( www.cristiandarie.ro) - an author who
> > > > collaborates with other authors and has dished out some great books
> > > > successfully. Here are his email IDs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you could contact him directly (I just
> > > > sent him an IM, too). I'm sure he should be willing to work on this 
> > > > book. We
> > > > tried to produce a book on PowerBuilder earlier when I used to have some
> > > > spare time but as the language was dying, there were no other takers 
> > > > from
> > > > the community other than Cristian so the idea did not take off.
> > > >
> > > > As a user, I wish ZF evolves into a very mature framework. The
> > > > framework already has some good strengths to itself - compared to 
> > > > Symfony
> > > > - such as:
> > > >
> > > > *** Light weight !!
> > > > Component-based (use just what you need)
> > > > Non-monolithic
> > > > Search-engine friendly URLs
> > > > Placement of source outside the doc-root
> > > >  Based on PHP 5.2
> > > > OOP
> > > > MVC
> > > > DRY
> > > > KISS
> > > > RAD
> > > > PDO
> > > > TDD
> > > > Design patterns
> > > > Quality code
> > > > Enterprise-ready
> > > > Some great components: Acl, Auth, Cache, Config, Db, Json, Locale,
> > > > Lucene, Mail, Pdf, Rest, Service, Translate...
> > > > Community (users/contributors)
> > > >
> > > > and comparing to other frameworks out there, what we need to come up
> > > > with for its wider adaptation are: elaborate *documentation,
> > > > tutorials, wiki, books, audios, videos *and what not...? A beginner
> > > > should be thrilled to watch a video and see how easy it is to build a
> > > > blogging service in 20 mins and be able to send an email in 10 mins 
> > > > using
> > > > ZF!!
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PS: I had a great difficulty with posting the comment as it bombed
> > > > several times accusing me that my HTML formatting was invalid for no
> > > > apparent reason :(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/16/07, Cal Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Shekar,
> > > > >
> > > > > Something you want to announce?  :) Or were you just postulating?
> > > > >
> > > > > =C=
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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