FYI There are actually several Zend Framework books in production.
I will be featuring some framework (but by no means the focus) in my upcoming
book and I am aware of other ZFW feature books in development.
Remember it takes a LONG time to publish a book, and the reason there is
nothing on the market right now is the framework's extremely high rate of
change. No one wants to write a book that is dated by the time it hits shelves.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard D Shank
To: Shekar C Reddy
Cc: Zend Framework General
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] ZF Book
The biggest problem with writing a book is the time it takes verses the
payoff. Its a great way to get recognition (and credibility) but not a great
way to make money. That being said, I have toyed with the idea of doing that.
I have done a little writing in the past and I have been playing with ZF. My
plans are to write a CMS with ZF and I thought I might write a book about the
process. Thats the extent of what I have played with in my head.
It would be nice to know what the community felt would be needed to make a
great book. If there were enough interest, I would consider pursuing the idea
further. I definitely don't want to get into a situation like is going on
right now with jQuery community, with several people writing books at once.
Richard
Shekar C Reddy wrote:
Hi All,
This has reference to:
http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony
http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony---Sample-Chapter#comments-1820
ZF has matured into 1.0 but no books or discussions about bringing one out
yet other than some tidbits found on the internet (no offense intended; most of
those tidbits are indeed great pieces of code!) and the alphabetical API
reference guide. Joining pieces together and cross-referring to the reference
guide is no easy task - most times it results in half-baked knowledge, not to
mention - code with bottle-necks! What we need is a complete tutorial book that
does a project and utilizes all the components in concert and shows how they
integrate with each other. I interacted with Cal earlier on this matter (email
chain pasted below) about collaborating with an experienced author - Cristain
Darie.
I understand writing books takes a considerable amount of time. Any takers
with some time to spare on producing a book on ZF? Cristain would be glad to
help/guide you with getting started...
Here is another to consider:
http://devzone.zend.com/article/1118-Symfony-used-in-Yahoo-Bookmarks-Beta
(QUOTE: The documentation was the first reason for Yahoo to choose Symfony.
It reaches a unique quality and coverage in the open-source world)
Regards,
On 4/26/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Cal,
Would you like me to post this idea to the gw-general list to see if
there are any folks with writing skills that would collaborate with another
author?
On 4/6/07, Cal Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Shekar,
I'll have to check my notes as I don't recall Christian contacting me.
I know rumors of a couple of projects in the works right now but I'm not
currently involved with any of them.
=C=
Cal Evans
Editor-in-Chief, http://devzone.zend.com
AIM:CalZend Skype: CalAtZend
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From: Shekar C Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:11 PM
To: Cal Evans
Subject: Re: ZF Book?
Cal,
Well! I was wondering about the current fate of the ZF book as the
framework is reaching 1.0 soon. I introduced you Cristian Darie who would help
you with anything you folks might need from project planning, writing, editing,
publishing.... Was Cristian able to answer your questions and guide you in any
way?
Regards,
On 3/16/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Cal,
Here is the response from Cristian (my Yahoo ID is PowerObject):
QUOTE
Cristian Darie (3/16/2007 11:44:57 AM): Hey, thanks for this! Please
put them in touch with me -- I'm not sure if I'll have the time to start
writing a new book, but at least I can give them some advice. The idea of a
book on the Zend Framework sounds very exciting though!
PowerObject: I sent your email IDs to Cal Evans ( [EMAIL PROTECTED])
and he might contact you. If this idea jells, there may be a couple of
writers/developers who might collaborate with you.
PowerObject: Hi, Would you be willing to collaborate with another
writer at Zend.com on producing a book on Zend Framework that is reaching v1.0
? Do let me know so I can inform them and introduce you to each other so you
can take it from there...
UNQUOTE
Its your call now... ? :)
On 3/16/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Cal,
No, not postulating :) I know you are a great writer with excellent
authoring skills! And I guess you (as an active user of ZF) are a good fit to
come up with a book on ZF around the release of 1.0 (or even later). If you
think it is too huge a task to handle, you (along with some developers of ZF)
could colloborate with other authors. I know Cristian Darie (
www.cristiandarie.ro) - an author who collaborates with other authors and has
dished out some great books successfully. Here are his email IDs: [EMAIL
PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you could contact him directly (I just sent
him an IM, too). I'm sure he should be willing to work on this book. We tried
to produce a book on PowerBuilder earlier when I used to have some spare time
but as the language was dying, there were no other takers from the community
other than Cristian so the idea did not take off.
As a user, I wish ZF evolves into a very mature framework. The
framework already has some good strengths to itself - compared to Symfony -
such as:
*** Light weight !!
Component-based (use just what you need)
Non-monolithic
Search-engine friendly URLs
Placement of source outside the doc-root
Based on PHP 5.2
OOP
MVC
DRY
KISS
RAD
PDO
TDD
Design patterns
Quality code
Enterprise-ready
Some great components: Acl, Auth, Cache, Config, Db, Json, Locale,
Lucene, Mail, Pdf, Rest, Service, Translate...
Community (users/contributors)
and comparing to other frameworks out there, what we need to come
up with for its wider adaptation are: elaborate documentation, tutorials, wiki,
books, audios, videos and what not...? A beginner should be thrilled to watch a
video and see how easy it is to build a blogging service in 20 mins and be able
to send an email in 10 mins using ZF!!
Hope that helps...
PS: I had a great difficulty with posting the comment as it bombed
several times accusing me that my HTML formatting was invalid for no apparent
reason :(
On 3/16/07, Cal Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Shekar,
Something you want to announce? :) Or were you just postulating?
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