My Gmail was going Yo-Yo. Pardon me if it made into the list multiple times.
On 7/31/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > This has reference to: > > http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony > http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony---Sample-Chapter#comments-1820 > > > ZF has matured into 1.0 but no books or discussions about bringing one out > yet other than some *tidbits *found on the internet (no offense intended; > most of those tidbits are indeed great pieces of code!) and the *alphabetical > *API reference guide. Joining pieces together and cross-referring to the > reference guide is no easy task - most times it results in half-baked > knowledge, not to mention - code with bottle-necks! What we need is a > complete tutorial book that does a project and utilizes all the components > in *concert *and shows how they *integrate *with each other. I interacted > with Cal earlier on this matter (email chain pasted below) about > collaborating with an experienced author - Cristain Darie. > > I understand writing books takes a considerable amount of time. Any takers > with some time to spare on producing a book on ZF? Cristain would be glad to > help/guide you with getting started... > > Here is another to consider: > > http://devzone.zend.com/article/1118-Symfony-used-in-Yahoo-Bookmarks-Beta > (QUOTE: The documentation was the first reason for Yahoo to choose > Symfony. It reaches a unique quality and coverage in the open-source world) > > > Regards, > > > > > > On 4/26/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Cal, > > > > Would you like me to post this idea to the gw-general list to see if > > there are any folks with writing skills that would collaborate with another > > author? > > > > > > > > On 4/6/07, Cal Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Shekar, > > > > > > I'll have to check my notes as I don't recall Christian contacting me. > > > I know rumors of a couple of projects in the works right now but I'm not > > > currently involved with any of them. > > > > > > =C= > > > > > > Cal Evans > > > Editor-in-Chief, http://devzone.zend.com > > > AIM:CalZend Skype: CalAtZend > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* Shekar C Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 06, 2007 3:11 PM > > > *To:* Cal Evans > > > *Subject:* Re: ZF Book? > > > > > > > > > Cal, > > > > > > Well! I was wondering about the current fate of the ZF book as the > > > framework is reaching 1.0 soon. I introduced you Cristian Darie who > > > would help you with anything you folks might need from project planning, > > > writing, editing, publishing.... Was Cristian able to answer your > > > questions and guide you in any way? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/16/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Cal, > > > > > > > > Here is the response from Cristian (my Yahoo ID is PowerObject): > > > > > > > > QUOTE > > > > > > > > *Cristian Darie *(3/16/2007 11:44:57 AM): Hey, thanks for this! > > > > Please put them in touch with me -- I'm not sure if I'll have the time > > > > to > > > > start writing a new book, but at least I can give them some advice. The > > > > idea > > > > of a book on the Zend Framework sounds very exciting though! > > > > > > > > *PowerObject: *I sent your email IDs to Cal Evans ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > and he might contact you. If this idea jells, there may be a couple of > > > > writers/developers who might collaborate with you. ** > > > > *PowerObject*: Hi, Would you be willing to collaborate with another > > > > writer at Zend.com <http://zend.com/> on producing a book on *Zend > > > > Framework *that is reaching v1.0 ? Do let me know so I can inform > > > > them and introduce you to each other so you can take it from there... > > > > > > > > UNQUOTE > > > > > > > > Its your call now... ? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/16/07, Shekar C Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Cal, > > > > > > > > > > No, not postulating :) I know you are a great writer with * > > > > > excellent* authoring skills! And I guess you (as an active user of > > > > > ZF) are a good fit to come up with a book on ZF around the release of > > > > > 1.0 (or even later). If you think it is too huge a task to handle, > > > > > you (along with some developers of ZF) could *colloborate with > > > > > other authors*. I know Cristian Darie ( www.cristiandarie.ro) - an > > > > > author who collaborates with other authors and has dished out some > > > > > great > > > > > books successfully. Here are his email IDs: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you could > > > > > contact him directly (I just sent him an IM, too). I'm sure he should > > > > > be > > > > > willing to work on this book. We tried to produce a book on > > > > > PowerBuilder > > > > > earlier when I used to have some spare time but as the language was > > > > > dying, > > > > > there were no other takers from the community other than Cristian so > > > > > the > > > > > idea did not take off. > > > > > > > > > > As a user, I wish ZF evolves into a very mature framework. The > > > > > framework already has some good strengths to itself - compared to > > > > > Symfony > > > > > - such as: > > > > > > > > > > *** Light weight !! > > > > > Component-based (use just what you need) > > > > > Non-monolithic > > > > > Search-engine friendly URLs > > > > > Placement of source outside the doc-root > > > > > Based on PHP 5.2 > > > > > OOP > > > > > MVC > > > > > DRY > > > > > KISS > > > > > RAD > > > > > PDO > > > > > TDD > > > > > Design patterns > > > > > Quality code > > > > > Enterprise-ready > > > > > Some great components: Acl, Auth, Cache, Config, Db, Json, Locale, > > > > > Lucene, Mail, Pdf, Rest, Service, Translate... > > > > > Community (users/contributors) > > > > > > > > > > and comparing to other frameworks out there, what we need to come > > > > > up with for its wider adaptation are: elaborate *documentation, > > > > > tutorials, wiki, books, audios, videos *and what not...? A > > > > > beginner should be thrilled to watch a video and see how easy it is > > > > > to build > > > > > a blogging service in 20 mins and be able to send an email in 10 mins > > > > > using > > > > > ZF!! > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I had a great difficulty with posting the comment as it bombed > > > > > several times accusing me that my HTML formatting was invalid for no > > > > > apparent reason :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/16/07, Cal Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Shekar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Something you want to announce? :) Or were you just > > > > > > postulating? > > > > > > > > > > > > =C= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
