Hi All,
This has reference to:
http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony
http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony---Sample-Chapter#comments-1820
<http://devzone.zend.com/article/1795-The-Definitive-Guide-to-symfony---Sample-Chapter#comments-1820>
ZF has matured into 1.0 but no books or discussions about bringing one
out yet other than some *tidbits *found on the internet (no offense
intended; most of those tidbits are indeed great pieces of code!) and
the /alphabetical /API reference guide. Joining pieces together and
cross-referring to the reference guide is no easy task - most times it
results in half-baked knowledge, not to mention - code with
bottle-necks! What we need is a complete tutorial book that does a
project and utilizes all the components in *concert *and shows how
they *integrate *with each other. I interacted with Cal earlier on
this matter (email chain pasted below) about collaborating with an
experienced author - Cristain Darie.
I understand writing books takes a considerable amount of time. Any
takers with some time to spare on producing a book on ZF? Cristain
would be glad to help/guide you with getting started...
Here is another to consider:
http://devzone.zend.com/article/1118-Symfony-used-in-Yahoo-Bookmarks-Beta
(QUOTE: The documentation was the first reason for Yahoo to choose
Symfony. It reaches a unique quality and coverage in the open-source
world)
Regards,
On 4/26/07, *Shekar C Reddy* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Hi Cal,
Would you like me to post this idea to the gw-general list to see
if there are any folks with writing skills that would collaborate
with another author?
On 4/6/07, *Cal Evans* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Hi Shekar,
I'll have to check my notes as I don't recall Christian
contacting me. I know rumors of a couple of projects in the
works right now but I'm not currently involved with any of them.
=C=
Cal Evans
Editor-in-Chief, http://devzone.zend.com
<http://devzone.zend.com/>
AIM:CalZend Skype: CalAtZend
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*From:* Shekar C Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
*Sent:* Friday, April 06, 2007 3:11 PM
*To:* Cal Evans
*Subject:* Re: ZF Book?
Cal,
Well! I was wondering about the current fate of the ZF book as
the framework is reaching 1.0 soon. I introduced you Cristian
Darie who would help you with anything you folks might need
from project planning, writing, editing, publishing.... Was
Cristian able to answer your questions and guide you in any way?
Regards,
On 3/16/07, *Shekar C Reddy* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Cal,
Here is the response from Cristian (my Yahoo ID is
PowerObject):
QUOTE
*Cristian Darie *(3/16/2007 11:44:57 AM): Hey, thanks for
this! Please put them in touch with me -- I'm not sure if
I'll have the time to start writing a new book, but at
least I can give them some advice. The idea of a book on
the Zend Framework sounds very exciting though!
*PowerObject: *I sent your email IDs to Cal Evans (
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) and he might contact
you. If this idea jells, there may be a couple of
writers/developers who might collaborate with you.
**
*PowerObject*: Hi, Would you be willing to collaborate
with another writer at Zend.com <http://zend.com/> on
producing a book on *Zend Framework *that is reaching v1.0
? Do let me know so I can inform them and introduce you to
each other so you can take it from there...
UNQUOTE
Its your call now... ? :)
On 3/16/07, *Shekar C Reddy* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Cal,
No, not postulating :) I know you are a great writer
with /excellent/ authoring skills! And I guess you (as
an active user of ZF) are a good fit to come up with a
book on ZF around the release of 1.0 (or even later).
If you think it is too huge a task to handle, you
(along with some developers of ZF) could *colloborate
with other authors*. I know Cristian Darie (
www.cristiandarie.ro <http://www.cristiandarie.ro/>) -
an author who collaborates with other authors and has
dished out some great books successfully. Here are his
email IDs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and you could
contact him directly (I just sent him an IM, too). I'm
sure he should be willing to work on this book. We
tried to produce a book on PowerBuilder earlier when I
used to have some spare time but as the language was
dying, there were no other takers from the community
other than Cristian so the idea did not take off.
As a user, I wish ZF evolves into a very mature
framework. The framework already has some good
strengths to itself - compared to Symfony - such as:
*** Light weight !!
Component-based (use just what you need)
Non-monolithic
Search-engine friendly URLs
Placement of source outside the doc-root
Based on PHP 5.2
OOP
MVC
DRY
KISS
RAD
PDO
TDD
Design patterns
Quality code
Enterprise-ready
Some great components: Acl, Auth, Cache, Config, Db,
Json, Locale, Lucene, Mail, Pdf, Rest, Service,
Translate...
Community (users/contributors)
and comparing to other frameworks out there, what we
need to come up with for its wider adaptation are:
elaborate *documentation, tutorials, wiki, books,
audios, videos *and what not...? A beginner should
be thrilled to watch a video and see how easy it is to
build a blogging service in 20 mins and be able to
send an email in 10 mins using ZF!!
Hope that helps...
PS: I had a great difficulty with posting the comment
as it bombed several times accusing me that my HTML
formatting was invalid for no apparent reason :(
On 3/16/07, *Cal Evans* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Shekar,
Something you want to announce? :) Or were you
just postulating?
=C=
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