My $0.02..

I sort of disagree..  I do not think beginner stuff should be relegated to
videos unless the group _first_ advertises that the video would be shown and
discussed in a regular meeting to help newbies not be  100% bumfuzzled at
the beginning, and to _encourage_and_make_people_comfortable_asking_
newbie-based questions at the regular meetings.  If there is an educational
philosophy behind the general LUG for enlightening people this would be a
golden opportunity...

John McKelvey



On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Bud Manz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Hey guys,
>
> How hard would it be to put up a video presentation for the introductory
> stuff and leave the more advanced stuff for the meetings?  That way the
> beginners can learn over time and use the meetings as they become more
> proficient with the usage of Linux.  Just a suggestion and anyone is welcome
> to "shoot me down" on this idea.
>
> Thanks,
> Bud
>
> Vern Ceder wrote:
>
> Simón Ruiz wrote:
>  > As an example, last night's meeting was advertised with the sentence
>
> "If you've never moved beyond the point and click world of the GUI,
> but want to see what's under the hood, this is [the] meeting for you."
>
>
> However, I strongly feel that we irresponsibly advertised a geekfest
> as being a beginner-friendly introduction.
>
>
> My apologies to all of the people who showed up at the last meeting
> expecting a beginners' tutorial. I was the one who irresponsibly sent out
> the misleading advertisement, and I freely admit that was wrong. I had
> originally proposed a beginner's talk, but by the time  the notice went out
> we had already changed it to be more heavy on the hacks and tricks end.
> Unfortunately my brain remained stuck on the earlier description, so again
> my apologies. This does prove what I've always known - that I suck at
> sending out PR notices, but so far that fact hasn't gotten me fired from the
> job. Maybe it should... ;)
>
> Let's use my wife, who came in understandably expecting a
> beginner-friendly presentation, as an example. Bash dictionaries were
> merely the last thing discussed; I know Sarah—who was hoping to learn
> something, and even had a terminal window up in anticipation—was lost
> almost immediately after the meeting started.
>
>
> Of course. My dozen slides were more an attempt at lightening review for
> the somewhat knowledgeable, than an introduction for beginners. Again, that
> was my fault.
>
> This does point out a need for changes in the level of topics and the way
> we choose topics for LUG meetings. If you all will bear with me on that, I
> hope to have something for discussion soon.
>
> Cheers,
> Vern
>
>
>
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