On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Bud Manz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, > > I agree that it should be advertised, but, we are the Ft. Wayne Linux > *Users* Group. > Sorry, but I just have a hard time with this sentence. To me it just sounds elitist.. John > > Thanks, > Bud > > > John McKelvey wrote: > > My $0.02.. > > I sort of disagree.. I do not think beginner stuff should be relegated to > videos unless the group _first_ advertises that the video would be shown and > discussed in a regular meeting to help newbies not be 100% bumfuzzled at > the beginning, and to _encourage_and_make_people_comfortable_asking_ > newbie-based questions at the regular meetings. If there is an educational > philosophy behind the general LUG for enlightening people this would be a > golden opportunity... > > John McKelvey > > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Bud Manz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> How hard would it be to put up a video presentation for the introductory >> stuff and leave the more advanced stuff for the meetings? That way the >> beginners can learn over time and use the meetings as they become more >> proficient with the usage of Linux. Just a suggestion and anyone is welcome >> to "shoot me down" on this idea. >> >> Thanks, >> Bud >> >> Vern Ceder wrote: >> >> Simón Ruiz wrote: >> > As an example, last night's meeting was advertised with the sentence >> >> "If you've never moved beyond the point and click world of the GUI, >> but want to see what's under the hood, this is [the] meeting for you." >> >> >> However, I strongly feel that we irresponsibly advertised a geekfest >> as being a beginner-friendly introduction. >> >> >> My apologies to all of the people who showed up at the last meeting >> expecting a beginners' tutorial. I was the one who irresponsibly sent out >> the misleading advertisement, and I freely admit that was wrong. I had >> originally proposed a beginner's talk, but by the time the notice went out >> we had already changed it to be more heavy on the hacks and tricks end. >> Unfortunately my brain remained stuck on the earlier description, so again >> my apologies. This does prove what I've always known - that I suck at >> sending out PR notices, but so far that fact hasn't gotten me fired from the >> job. Maybe it should... ;) >> >> Let's use my wife, who came in understandably expecting a >> beginner-friendly presentation, as an example. Bash dictionaries were >> merely the last thing discussed; I know Sarah—who was hoping to learn >> something, and even had a terminal window up in anticipation—was lost >> almost immediately after the meeting started. >> >> >> Of course. My dozen slides were more an attempt at lightening review for >> the somewhat knowledgeable, than an introduction for beginners. Again, that >> was my fault. >> >> This does point out a need for changes in the level of topics and the way >> we choose topics for LUG meetings. If you all will bear with me on that, I >> hope to have something for discussion soon. >> >> Cheers, >> Vern >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fwlug mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fortwaynelug.org/mailman/listinfo/fwlug_fortwaynelug.org >> >> >
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