Discussions with my wife prompts this: After setting up and executing whichever "linux initiation" exercises that evolve what about the possibility of a break-out session for those who could benefit from having a more elementary Q&A discussion format? I realize there may not be a second room equipped like the computer room, but a laptop and portable projector in a room might suffice... Or perhaps there could be a Q&A discussion periods from 6:45/7 till 7:15/7:30 on the regular meeting nights.
John On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Watson, Christer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. I have really enjoy many of the > presentations we've had recently. It seems like there are quite a few > questions and back-and-forth at our meetings. In fact, that's what I've > always enjoyed most about our meetings, the back-and-forth. Now if some of > us want to work on making an outreach to non-linux users or casual users, > sounds great! If you'd like to make an effort to make presentations that are > more newbie-friendly, I think that'd be great, too. It seems to me that we > have plenty of presentation slots for everyone. > > All that said, I've still really enjoyed the presentations we've had and > conversation that they inspire. I think it's hard to have a group > presentation good enough to inspire conversation on a monthly basis. The > Fort Wayne LUG manages to do it. i think that's partly (mostly?) because we > let people present on whatever they are most interested in. As a result, we > hit a range of levels, sometimes unpredicably. Of course, reminders for the > presentations to be as understandable and approachable as possible are > always welcome. But I still think the most important thing is that people > are encouraged to present on what they find interesting. > > Cheers, > > --Christer > ________________________________________ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John McKelvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [fwlug] Linux Outreach Program > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Bud Manz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > Hi, > > I agree that it should be advertised, but, we are the Ft. Wayne Linux > *Users* Group. > > Sorry, but I just have a hard time with this sentence. To me it just > sounds elitist.. > > John > > > Thanks, > Bud > > > John McKelvey wrote: > My $0.02.. > > I sort of disagree.. I do not think beginner stuff should be relegated to > videos unless the group _first_ advertises that the video would be shown and > discussed in a regular meeting to help newbies not be 100% bumfuzzled at > the beginning, and to _encourage_and_make_people_comfortable_asking_ > newbie-based questions at the regular meetings. If there is an educational > philosophy behind the general LUG for enlightening people this would be a > golden opportunity... > > John McKelvey > > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Bud Manz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > Hey guys, > > How hard would it be to put up a video presentation for the introductory > stuff and leave the more advanced stuff for the meetings? That way the > beginners can learn over time and use the meetings as they become more > proficient with the usage of Linux. Just a suggestion and anyone is welcome > to "shoot me down" on this idea. > > Thanks, > Bud > > > Vern Ceder wrote: > Simón Ruiz wrote: > > As an example, last night's meeting was advertised with the sentence > "If you've never moved beyond the point and click world of the GUI, > but want to see what's under the hood, this is [the] meeting for you." > > However, I strongly feel that we irresponsibly advertised a geekfest > as being a beginner-friendly introduction. > > My apologies to all of the people who showed up at the last meeting > expecting a beginners' tutorial. I was the one who irresponsibly sent out > the misleading advertisement, and I freely admit that was wrong. I had > originally proposed a beginner's talk, but by the time the notice went out > we had already changed it to be more heavy on the hacks and tricks end. > Unfortunately my brain remained stuck on the earlier description, so again > my apologies. This does prove what I've always known - that I suck at > sending out PR notices, but so far that fact hasn't gotten me fired from the > job. Maybe it should... ;) > > Let's use my wife, who came in understandably expecting a > beginner-friendly presentation, as an example. Bash dictionaries were > merely the last thing discussed; I know Sarah—who was hoping to learn > something, and even had a terminal window up in anticipation—was lost > almost immediately after the meeting started. > > Of course. My dozen slides were more an attempt at lightening review for > the somewhat knowledgeable, than an introduction for beginners. Again, that > was my fault. > > This does point out a need for changes in the level of topics and the way > we choose topics for LUG meetings. If you all will bear with me on that, I > hope to have something for discussion soon. > > Cheers, > Vern > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fwlug mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://fortwaynelug.org/mailman/listinfo/fwlug_fortwaynelug.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fwlug mailing list > [email protected] > http://fortwaynelug.org/mailman/listinfo/fwlug_fortwaynelug.org >
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