I would agree with you, John. For any beginners' tutorials to be
effective, they have to be meetings between live people.
There are a number of possibilities for that, and I'm working on a
survey to see which option might work best for the most people. More to
come soon.
Vern
John McKelvey wrote:
My $0.02..
I sort of disagree.. I do not think beginner stuff should be relegated
to videos unless the group _first_ advertises that the video would be
shown and discussed in a regular meeting to help newbies not be 100%
bumfuzzled at the beginning, and to
_encourage_and_make_people_comfortable_asking_ newbie-based questions
at the regular meetings. If there is an educational philosophy behind
the general LUG for enlightening people this would be a golden
opportunity...
John McKelvey
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Bud Manz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Hey guys,
How hard would it be to put up a video presentation for the
introductory stuff and leave the more advanced stuff for the
meetings? That way the beginners can learn over time and use the
meetings as they become more proficient with the usage of Linux.
Just a suggestion and anyone is welcome to "shoot me down" on this idea.
Thanks,
Bud
Vern Ceder wrote:
Simón Ruiz wrote:
> As an example, last night's meeting was advertised with the
sentence
"If you've never moved beyond the point and click world of the GUI,
but want to see what's under the hood, this is [the] meeting for
you."
However, I strongly feel that we irresponsibly advertised a geekfest
as being a beginner-friendly introduction.
My apologies to all of the people who showed up at the last
meeting expecting a beginners' tutorial. I was the one who
irresponsibly sent out the misleading advertisement, and I freely
admit that was wrong. I had originally proposed a beginner's talk,
but by the time the notice went out we had already changed it to
be more heavy on the hacks and tricks end. Unfortunately my brain
remained stuck on the earlier description, so again my apologies.
This does prove what I've always known - that I suck at sending
out PR notices, but so far that fact hasn't gotten me fired from
the job. Maybe it should... ;)
Let's use my wife, who came in understandably expecting a
beginner-friendly presentation, as an example. Bash dictionaries
were
merely the last thing discussed; I know Sarah—who was hoping to
learn
something, and even had a terminal window up in anticipation—was
lost
almost immediately after the meeting started.
Of course. My dozen slides were more an attempt at lightening
review for the somewhat knowledgeable, than an introduction for
beginners. Again, that was my fault.
This does point out a need for changes in the level of topics and
the way we choose topics for LUG meetings. If you all will bear
with me on that, I hope to have something for discussion soon.
Cheers,
Vern
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