I just wanted to put in my 2 cents. I have really enjoy many of the presentations we've had recently. It seems like there are quite a few questions and back-and-forth at our meetings. In fact, that's what I've always enjoyed most about our meetings, the back-and-forth. Now if some of us want to work on making an outreach to non-linux users or casual users, sounds great! If you'd like to make an effort to make presentations that are more newbie-friendly, I think that'd be great, too. It seems to me that we have plenty of presentation slots for everyone.
All that said, I've still really enjoyed the presentations we've had and conversation that they inspire. I think it's hard to have a group presentation good enough to inspire conversation on a monthly basis. The Fort Wayne LUG manages to do it. i think that's partly (mostly?) because we let people present on whatever they are most interested in. As a result, we hit a range of levels, sometimes unpredicably. Of course, reminders for the presentations to be as understandable and approachable as possible are always welcome. But I still think the most important thing is that people are encouraged to present on what they find interesting. Cheers, --Christer ________________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McKelvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [fwlug] Linux Outreach Program On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Bud Manz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Hi, I agree that it should be advertised, but, we are the Ft. Wayne Linux *Users* Group. Sorry, but I just have a hard time with this sentence. To me it just sounds elitist.. John Thanks, Bud John McKelvey wrote: My $0.02.. I sort of disagree.. I do not think beginner stuff should be relegated to videos unless the group _first_ advertises that the video would be shown and discussed in a regular meeting to help newbies not be 100% bumfuzzled at the beginning, and to _encourage_and_make_people_comfortable_asking_ newbie-based questions at the regular meetings. If there is an educational philosophy behind the general LUG for enlightening people this would be a golden opportunity... John McKelvey On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Bud Manz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Hey guys, How hard would it be to put up a video presentation for the introductory stuff and leave the more advanced stuff for the meetings? That way the beginners can learn over time and use the meetings as they become more proficient with the usage of Linux. Just a suggestion and anyone is welcome to "shoot me down" on this idea. Thanks, Bud Vern Ceder wrote: Simón Ruiz wrote: > As an example, last night's meeting was advertised with the sentence "If you've never moved beyond the point and click world of the GUI, but want to see what's under the hood, this is [the] meeting for you." However, I strongly feel that we irresponsibly advertised a geekfest as being a beginner-friendly introduction. My apologies to all of the people who showed up at the last meeting expecting a beginners' tutorial. I was the one who irresponsibly sent out the misleading advertisement, and I freely admit that was wrong. I had originally proposed a beginner's talk, but by the time the notice went out we had already changed it to be more heavy on the hacks and tricks end. Unfortunately my brain remained stuck on the earlier description, so again my apologies. This does prove what I've always known - that I suck at sending out PR notices, but so far that fact hasn't gotten me fired from the job. Maybe it should... ;) Let's use my wife, who came in understandably expecting a beginner-friendly presentation, as an example. Bash dictionaries were merely the last thing discussed; I know Sarah—who was hoping to learn something, and even had a terminal window up in anticipation—was lost almost immediately after the meeting started. Of course. My dozen slides were more an attempt at lightening review for the somewhat knowledgeable, than an introduction for beginners. Again, that was my fault. This does point out a need for changes in the level of topics and the way we choose topics for LUG meetings. If you all will bear with me on that, I hope to have something for discussion soon. Cheers, Vern _______________________________________________ Fwlug mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://fortwaynelug.org/mailman/listinfo/fwlug_fortwaynelug.org _______________________________________________ Fwlug mailing list [email protected] http://fortwaynelug.org/mailman/listinfo/fwlug_fortwaynelug.org
