Thanks for the info Wade. That's what I'm looking for is input. I'm a complete mac newb, so it's all new info to me. I'm just trying to figure out the most bang for my buck. I want to run OS X and have USB. I want something that can be upgraded without huge expense (processor, ram, hd, video, etc.)
I was only asking about the AGP because I have a decent AGP card, or at least that's what got me thinking. I have prices on several B&W's, purely for the reasons you spoke of. I just thought I'd go ahead and step up to the G4 and AGP. If the video is not a major performance bottleneck on the macs, I suppose I don't need it? I'll have to look for prices on a DA, if they are close in price to the Sawtooth, I'll get that. Basically, I want to start off with something decent that I can run the latest OS, use my existing USB accessories (camera, printer, etc.) and be able to install a CDRW or DVDRW at some point. I want to spend the least possible to give me something that I can use daily and enjoy. Rad... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wade Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "G-List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:59 PM Subject: Re: AGP Video Card? > <snip> > > >I'm running Panther on a Sawtooth G4/500, and it works fine. The only > >difference other than the 50Mhz speed different, is that I have 832Mb > >of RAM in mine. It probably won't run acceptably without more RAM, so > >definitely get that first. A new video card will only speed up > >graphics, but it will also be a lot cheaper than a processor upgrade, > >so I'd probably go with that next (I'm considering one for my > >Sawtooth). > > > I have to put in my 2 cents here. I have three Mac's networked at home. My > daughters 2 B&W G3's and my G4 Digital audio. > > I realize that Rad Craig asked about a G4, but price wise you would be able > to pick up a very good B&W rev 2 400, for about $250.00 usd. If you are new > to the Mac platform it is a good way to get upgradeable hardware for a low > price. It could also be used as the server when you commit to a G4. > ZIF processors are relatively cheap now if you want upgrade, and many of us > will not be able to take advantage of the 64 bit processors for a while > unless you use Photoshop 7 all of the time. Just make sure that you get the > rev 2 board. It is a lot easier to add drives, and front and backside cache > is faster. > > The reason I brought this up is that no one has mentioned the B&W. I only > have these 2 because the Beige G3 were such an issues with OS X upgrades. > The G3's ( a rev 1 350, and rev 2 400) are both running Panther 10.3.2 with > no issues. Both have 512 Mb RAM, the stock ATI 16 Mb video, and after market > LG DVD/CDRW drives. The only things missing (newer hardware) from the B&W > is AGP video. That is only required if you are going to use Final Cut Pro or > iDVD for video work. > > Don't get me wrong, I would not trade my Digital Audio for anything (except > maybe a G5 Dual). I have upgraded the processor to a 933 MHz (It is a 7450 > chipset, just like the MDD Mac's) from http://www.fastmac.com/index.php, > added a Pioneer 106 drive, new HD's and 1.5 Gb memory . > > Rad Craig, > > If you are set on a G4, please look at the Digital Audio Model. The bus > speed of 133 MHz was the clincher for me. While not as fast as the MDD > models @180 , it is still 33% faster than the Sawtooth for a few dollars > more. > > Good Luck, > Wade Perry > > -- > Wade A. Perry > > > > > -- > G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... > > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | > -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | > > Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; > Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> > > Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com > -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
