On Dec 29, 2005, at 9:23 PM, Pablo Roufogalis L. wrote:

I'd venture my opinion on an old subject but please do not flame me. I've been insulted elsewhere by Mac zealots (none here, right? ;-) ) for stating my views on this matter.

1) The old Mac OS is easy to troubleshoot. Very few things can go wrong.

Huh!? I sure didn't find it that way! Extension conflicts can be a major PITA, system crashes for no easily discernable reason, etc, etc. OS X has been much more reliable for me. I've had much fewer problems with it, and the few I've had weren't major issues. On the rare occasions I've experienced a kernal panic, it was usually a hardware problem, if not, a reboot got me going again. I've had uptimes measuring in weeks. Couldn't say that about the "classic" Mac OS.


2) The old Mac OS was limited, yes, but Macs were (supposedly) for the rest of us. At one point in time that changed, and the market and the developers expected top performance too.

And what's wrong with that?


3) This is key: Switching to OSX was the same as switching to Linux or Windows, except for the fancy and cute UI with some familiar logos and icons. With OS9 you had a simple but marginal OS. With OSX you have a complicated and marginal OS. It was clear to me that there was no reason to go OSX and went mainstream (Wintel). That was very right for me and my needs, might not had been so for others.

OS X is a "marginal" OS?? On what do you base that conclusion? I've found OS X to be much more "flexible" than Windoze ever was! I can't stand an OS that won't allow me to do what "I" want to do, not what it will allow me to do. As an example, I was at a buddy's house who has an XP box. I was trying to help him move some MP3 files from one directory to another. XP wouldn't let me do it no matter what I tried. It wouldn't even let me see files with an MP3 extension in that directory! A simple enough task on my Mac, but nearly impossible under Windoze. Another remimder of the frustration I endured when I used to run Winblows, and a renewal of my appreciation for the Mac OS. As I've said many times before, I just want to use my computers, not have my blood pressure raised by them. And my BP has been much lower since I switched to Macs!


4) XP is complicated too but there are way much more resources to tackle problems, and they are cheaper. And the availability of software is exponentially superior (another key issue).

I didn't realize "cheap" was a good reason to choose an OS, and since when was XP cheaper than OS X? And "superior software"? I don't see that either.


OS9 is a long-lost never-forgotten love and XP is my trusted partner. Both sit on my physical desktop. But There's no OSX in my desktop, it wouldn't fill any current need (the first love that went nasty and wants a second run? Naa, I'll stick to my memoirs).

You "trust" XP?!? I wouldn't trust anything from a morally bankrupt company like Micro$oft! Do a little research, and you'll see why I say that. Bill Gates is a proven lier, thief, and bully. I don't trust people like that, or a company they run.


At 08:43 PM 12/29/2005, you wrote:
I fail to understand this at all. Personally, I think OS X is the best thing to happen to the Mac OS ever.

This is true. Apple, the computing company, wouldn't have survived with a revamp of their product line. But it is clear that in the process, the "rest of us" concept was virtually killed. I think that today, Wintel is way more for the rest of us than OSX.

Again, please explain how you came to that conclusion? It seems obvious to me that you haven't actually used OS X. At least not in any recent iteration. OS X has improved steadily with every new version. How long has it been since Micro$haft has brought anything new out? Other than constant security patches (so much for "trustworthy computing!"), there's been no real innovation since Win2k, which was just an upgrade to NT. OS X was a totally new OS. Something that Micro$haft hasn't had since since Win95 (and that still had it's roots in 3.1). I guess I have to question why you are even on a Mac list in the first place? You want nothing to do with the OS which is the best that has ever graced the Mac, and claim that Windoze (the buggiest, least secure OS out there) is the greatest thing since sliced bread!

J


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