On Sep 25, 2008, at 5:54 PM, CCorsair wrote:

> Ok so if I want to use and burn with the Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-109 I need
> to Get Patchburn ?

Only if you want to use the Apple-provided utility.

If you want to use Toast, then (almost) all drives are supported  
without further action on your part.


> Is ther version of Patchburn for OS 9.2.2?

No, just for 10.1/10.2 (obsolete, and no longer available for  
download), 10.3 (still available but not updated) and 10.4 (still  
available and possibly updated).

Apple added just about every drive there is (or was) for 10.5.


> I like to get a list of Known DVD/DVR that work with this systems this
> would help as I cn get drive at OEM price and just need a model# to
> order them from my shop.
>
> BTW if did give better details on the system here they are
>

DVR-109, DVR-110, DVR-111, for sure, and current model Lite-Ons, for  
sure.

Probably current model Pioneers and Sonys, too.


> This is Power MAC G4 siver tower(not the Quicksilver) this is the
> digital audio model that was before the Quick silver
> the system was running OS 9.1.1 and has been updated
> the system has 256 megs of PC 133 ram
> 2 60 or 80 gig hard drives(have to check that again) both are IBM
> DeskStars

A QS is a DA form-factor unit, but with many internal changes.

QS processors may be installed in DAs (with a special cable), but DA  
processors may not be installed in QSes.

Otherwise, one is "graphite" whereas the other is "silver".

Oh, the optical drive mount and the Zip drive mount are different  
(the DA uses the old B&W/first Graphite method, the QS uses a method  
unique to it).



> I like to replace both or one with larger drives so i like Western
> Digital drives but not sure if current IDE will run on this bus on the
> motherboard .

Both the DA and QS are amenable to the LBA48 property update method,  
using TERMINAL, and these updates (one for the HD bus, another one  
for the optical bus) are the same for both.

As long as you don't do a reset-nvram your DA or WS will have large  
drive support. I have had such support on my lone remaining DA for  
more than six months and it never goes away as I have not done a  
reset-nvram in all that time.

750 GB drives are available in PATA, and you can install three such  
drives in either a DA or a QS.

The current drives a very power-saving ... about 12 watts. Older ATA  
drives took much more power.


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