On Oct 24, 2008, at 1:49 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:14 AM, insightinmind wrote: > >> the backup volume was formatted on my QS under Leopard > > I don't believe Leopard's version of Disk Utility allows you to add > the OS 9 drivers? Without these OS 9 drivers, your OS 9 installation > will be an unbootable volume, useable only as Classic emulation under > OS X booting. Yes ... Leopard provides the OS 9 Drivers if you select them. My Leopard formatted drive has them. My Classic on the ATA/100 connected drive boots ok (copied back from the FW drive), but the one on the FW drive doesn't boot directly ... > >> Also, perhaps I cannot boot from the FW drive off the Adaptec, >> because the Tiger partition doesn't appear "blessed". Curious how to >> do this? Some Terminal bless filename command? > > Blessing has nothing to do with it. AFAIK no PCI Firewire cards are > directly bootable on any Mac model ever. The reason for this is a > "chicken & egg" issue. These cards aren't accounted for in the > firmware of the Mac, so even though they initialize almost 1st in the > boot process, they still have to initialize BEFORE anything can be > read or written to them. Bootable ATA and SCSI PCI cards have special > firmware so that they are recognized by the Mac's firmware and thus > are bootable. No PCI Firewire cards have the special Mac boot firmware > AFAIK. > A Great Xpostfacto 4 Helper application explanation follows (thanks Kris): > The way XPostFacto handles this problem is by starting the boot on > another bootable HD or partition. It keeps identical copies of the > boot software on both the bootable HD (the so-called "helper" disk) > and the targeted unbootable HD (in this case, a Firewire drive > attached to an unbootable PCI card). The boot process starts on the > bootable HD and goes to the point that all the hardware is > initialized, then it seamlessly transfers the boot over to the > normally unbootable HD on-the-fly. This is made possible because the > two HDs have identical boot software, almost as if they're clones > (these are held in invisible XPF files, and any normal boot software > on the volume is fine also). AFAIK XPF is your only option to boot > from a PCI firewire card. Have you tried booting the internal > Firewire? Did you use the Option key boot selection? If not, try that. Yes ... Xpostfacto 4 has come to the boot rescue (thanks to your suggestion and great explanation, Kris). I simply started up Xpostfacto 4 while booted onto a Tiger drive that is off the mobo ATA channel. When I selected the FW Tiger partition to Restart from, Xpostfacto selected the Helper Tiger off the mobo ATA, added files to the FW drive for Syncronization, and Restart gave me the Tiger on the FW drive, running off the Adaptec. It also them cold booted off the FW drive as well ... that issue solved! > > ... Have you tried booting the internal > Firewire? Did you use the Option key boot selection? If not, try that. I did try that awhile ago ... but as I discovered, I think my onboard FW is flaky ... maybe I didn't reseat the connector properly when I cleaned and reassembled my Yikes!, but I am avoiding that FW channel for now. > >> I believe I made the same mistake on all the other partitions, and >> need to repeat the clonings there as well, to get the proper >> Ownership and Permissions carried back from the backup. I don't think >> the originals had this checked. (They're gone now, if they did). > > As I remember, there was only one OS X volume? Ownership and > permissions should be irrelevant on the other volumes. OS 9 doesn't > use them, and external volumes ownership and permissions are normally > ignored. That will save me the time of re-CCCing my Classic, APPS and DOCS partitions. They seem to be working as before ... thanks to CCC 3.1.2's Mike Bombeck. Thanks Everyone! Now ... back to the piano jazz studies ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
