Exactly. The ones I would consider playable but not accessible are games 
like Lifeline. One can play them completely without needing to know 
directions to walk around the complex, as you control the game with your 
voice. However, one would have to know what items were in every room and 
where they were, as well as the special ways to fight certain monsters, in 
order for the game to be fully accessible. Or Kingdom Hearts. We blind folk 
can fight, but we haven't a prayer of finding our way through the game's 
many worlds.
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>I guess it depends how you define playable Vs. accessible.
>
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> From: Brandon Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I don't mean this as an argument, but I consider the games in which the
> menus can be memorized to be just as accessible as the ones with spoken
> menus. Sure it takes a bit longer for that accessibility to happen, but 
> that
> doesn't change the fact that we can pretty much play these games 
> completely.
>
> Just my thoughts.
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>> Hello Brandon,
>> Technically, there is a difference between playable and accessible.
>> Yes, I am not disagreeing a few PS2 games are playable, but most are
>> inaccessible and have serious accessibility issues. For example, the
>> menus are not accessible, and only are if you have them memorised.
>> It's not like our accessible games where the menu item or prompt is
> spoken.
>> Most PS2 games have several different sound effects which give us
>> vital hints and clues as to what has happened or is going on, but that
>> is only good if you are aware of what that sound means in the scheme of
> things.
>> Just some thoughts.
>>
>>
>> Brandon armstrong wrote:
>>>     hi tom, yes ps 2 games are acessible, i have a machine and play
>>> them all the time.
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>
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