Hi Brandon and all. Wow, I did not expect this question to lead to such interesting and productive conversation. Thanks to all for your thoughts on these issues. Personally I did not expect to find any of the ps/2 games to be accesible in the strict sense of the word, that is why I used the word playable instead. Anyhow I will probably investigate getting hold of one of these units if I can find one cheap.
Regards, Tom -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Cole Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] playability of Playstation 2 games? Yes, I see your points, Tom, and I've already given my own personal definitions of accessible and playable as well as examples. My definitions are different than yours, but I think several would have different opinions on this subject. I would like to bring up fighting games, as they are probably the games with the easiest menus except of course for games meant for the younger generation, some of which have no menus at all. Anyway, most fighting games follow a patern with their menus. The first option is almost guaranteed to bring you into the game's arcade mode, the second into the versus mode, and so on. While I can accept your memory wipe situation, I would say that as long as the portion of my memory existed that told me what type of game I was dealing with, I could jump into something like a fighting game fairly quickly. I mean to play MK Armageddon, for instance, all one needs to do is press X twice. The music changes, and you're in the character selection screen. TO me, that'd be enough. To me, that makes Mortal Kombat an accessible game, rather than just a playable one. But as I have already stated, this is simply my own opinion and set of standards. I see where you're coming from as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] playability of Playstation 2 games? > Hi Brandon, > I think to constructively discuss this matter we need to come up with > a common definition for accessible and playable. One does not > necessarily mean the other is true. To me personally accessible means > that I can grab that PS2 game pop it in the machine, I can play it > without having someone tell me what sound x means, use the menus > without having to memorise them, or have to have someone teach me the > menus. In other words the day I buy the game I can blay it without 0 > sighted help. To me playable means it might be accessible but even if > it is not 100% accessible I can memorise the menus, sounds, and so > forth and one day be able to play it on my own after I memorise the > game. Let's play the game of assume for a second. Let's assume we > whiped out your memory of how the menus are laid out and what all the > sounds mean for a given game. Ok, how are you going to access those > menus. Will you fumble around relearning those menus on your own, ask > a sighted person to tell you the layout, because at that very second > they are usable, but not accessible since you don't have those menus > memorised. In fact, one wonders how you learned them in the first > place. You can't tell me you baught your PS2 and the first day > automaticly without training knew every single menu by memory. You had > to have some trial and error, and perhaps some outside help to learn > them. > > Brandon Cole wrote: >> I don't mean this as an argument, but I consider the games in which >> the menus can be memorized to be just as accessible as the ones with >> spoken menus. Sure it takes a bit longer for that accessibility to >> happen, but that doesn't change the fact that we can pretty much play >> these games completely. >> Just my thoughts. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > _______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. _______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
