Now I absolutely will not get in the middle of this one. :)

I will say though, as regards people's responsibilities when it comes to 
keeping their systems up to date in reference to security, that this is not 
just a matter of one's own system.

One's security really affects everyone with whom that person comes into contact 
with in their dealings on the web or via email etc.

If one's security is compromised or not kept up to date, then that person puts 
all others at risk, who have any kind of data, email addresses or any other 
form of identifying info on that person's system.

So in short, your security is not just your responsibility for yourself on your 
own system. It is your responsibility to those you deal with on a regular basis 
as well.

Just like you would not deliberately give your friends a cold, or share a 
friend's phone number indiscriminately with everyone because they asked you not 
to, so you should also protect your system not just for yourself but for those 
you correspond with.

Just my thoughts and thanks for reading…

Smiles,

Cara :)
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On Dec 18, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Thomas Ward <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Dark,

I certainly don't want to misrepresent your position, and I do think I
understand your position very well. I guess for me I'm just very
concerned that you are making a bad decision based on very flawed
criteria, or at the very least the perceived benefits you are looking
for are too me a bit short sighted.

Bottom line, we don't see this the same way and I guess we probably
never will. I am very concerned about security, feel people should
take it more seriously than they do, and you are being less concerned
about it than I feel is warranted. Same could be said about hardware
and other things I pointed out. You don't see any benefit, fine, but
that does not mean my points are not valid. It is just that you have a
totally different outlook and do not value the same things I do when
it comes to hardware and software.

Cheers!

On 12/18/13, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Tom.
> 
> I was probably thinking of vista, since I do  know when getting my desktop
> repared in 2008 I very much didn't want a machine with newer windows, which
> 
> was one  other advantage of going to a local custom  manufacturer since all
> 
> the main shops like Pc world were the slaves of microsoft and ramming newer
> 
> versions down people's throats.
> 
> Well I have  said under  what circumstances I'll upgrade. Yes, I can run xp
> 
> in a virtual machine and I am glad there is that option, but if the newer os
> 
> doesn't actually bennifit me, well why have the  hassle?
> 
> to be honest I can understand that someone like yourself who cares about all
> 
> the technical stuff  is interested in the newer os, but I am getting
> slightly irritated with having the position I'm in missrepresented or
> missunderstoo. I do not think xp is the best thing there ever  will be,
> neither do  I  reffuse to upgrade, I merely don't see the point at the
> moment, that is all, and I fully expect in the future that this will change
> 
> when a new os actually  make a practical difference that is worth the
> hassle.
> 
> That is another reason I spent time playing with Windows 7 and I'd like to
> try mac and windows 8 in the same way, although at this point in time I have
> 
> a sneaking suspicion that it will be a hardware not a software change such
> as  touch screen control or something like.
> 
> Beware the grue!
> 
> Dark.
> 
> 
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